The Kennedy Assassination (November 22, 1963) 50 Years Later

http://www.thedailybell.com/editorials/34768/Paul-Craig-Roberts-The-Kennedy-Assassination-November-2 ^ | November 22, 2013 | Paul Craig Roberts

[politicianslie]

Using the audio evidence, there is no reason to believe that the AR15 was fired. All of the wounds to all three men are explained by the five shots that were identified.

the acoustical evidence indicates where four of the shots were fired from. The fifth shot was fired from a location that can be determined using other evidence. The audio evidence tells us when that shot was fired but it can’t determine WHERE unless there is test data firings from that location.

[bobby.223]

Agreed. Check your FReepmail from me to you this afternoon.

[9422WMR]

Excellent......

[mfish13]

And I have seen head shots where what you saw with Kennedy, happened.

[Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America]

Oswald connected with one shot, but that’s all the gubmint needed as cover for the truth.

[Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America]

Regarding ‘explode’, there were fine metal fragments inside JFK’s brain that showed up on X-Ray as particles. Oh my what’d’ya know, his brain is missing to THIS day!!!

[thestob]

anyone that believes that idiotic theory that George Hickey blew off the president’s head accidentally while riding in the secret service follow up car needs to admit two or three things

1. admit they believe a car full of secret service agents saw a fellow agent, who had been a driver for the detail for only four months, fire a shot and blow the head off of the man they were protecting, and instead of thinking ..”hey this new guy just shot the president he might be an assassin lets grab him and his gun!!” they instead just rode to the hospital with Hickey holding his AR-15 in the back seat “Nice shot George!!!”

...or they can admit they believe that that every agent in that car instantly decided (on the 80 mph trip to the hospital) to participate in the biggest coverup in history of the world and that they would risk everything to protect that extremely accurate klutz Agent George Hickey ...every SS agent must have been absolutely certain that no one had a film or a picture of Hickey firing that gun, right? so I’m sure they all got together in the parking lot at parkland and said “hey guys, since we are positive that no one was filming or photographing in Dealey plaza and heck there were certainly no people around to see anything, lets just pretend that good ol’ George accidentally blowing the presidents brains to mush thing...it never happened”

2. Admit they also believe that Ken O’Donnell and Dave Powers had an AR-15 go off literally inches over their heads, while seated directly in front of Hickey in the middle seat of the follow up car ..they saw it blow their best friends head off ...and they instantly came up with the idea to concoct and participate in the biggest coverup in the history of the world all for a bungling secret service man

3. Admit they believe that everyone within 10-20 feet of the limo at the time of the head shot was legally blind and saw nothing .....the proponents of this theory can’t even find one lunatic that says they saw it happen? not one? ...and there have been people that have claimed to have seen shooters all over the whole damn plaza, but they can’t find one that says they saw Hickey fire that gun at the president? Not in 50 years? come on!!! Gordon Arnold and Ed Hoffman where are you?!?!??

[caver]

“Oswald connected with one shot, but that’s all the gubmint needed as cover for the truth.”

That I can agree with.

[bobby.223]

Of course it is idiotic! Beyond idiotic really. That is why the poster will not answer either of my 2 questioning posts to him....he CAN’T....because his quote in that post of his that I first responded to, (His stating, “I agree with the theory”), is pure insanity, that “theory” is 100% Bullsi$t!!!! I’m an old timer and I have heard some real doozies in my time but the ‘Hickey shot JFK’ deal has gotta rank right near the top of the list for shear stupidity. Hell, I will answer my own question....Space Aliens used a beam to dislove the spent casing between the time it was ejected from the AR-15 and the time it would have landed on the pavement. From there, they flew their space ship, (listening to Elvis on their 8 Track Player of course), over to Hawaii and bombed Pearl Harbor.......

[thestob]

it’s amazing how people get sold on that theory after watching a two hour crap documentary by a couple of profiteering hacks....crazy huh?

another guy on here argued with me for half a day about that lunacy and it pisses me off more than any other of the crazy theories, because the rest of them usually blame bad guys LBJ, Mob, Commies, ETC....so who cares, be crazy if you want ..

but, I think smearing a dead Secret Service agent who absolutely did not do anything like they claim is just absolutely despicable

[Aliska]

Didn't mean to ignore your hard work. I've been tired and my mind can only deal with so much. At my own pace and not looking for anything in particular other than the dates Jackie was born and died, I've picked up some bits and pieces. As I've done since it happened. I knew there were missing pieces, lied to as you put it. But when you don't have a good counter argument, best to leave it be.

Why would Oswald be carrying a pistol later that day and use it on Officer Tippet unless that is a lie, too?

BTW I saw a video of Osward's and Marina's daughter, June and also a very short clip of Marina when she was younger.

So I'm not good at ballistics. The shot that blew his head apart looks like it came from ground level. The earlier shots, I can't tell if they came from high up or not.

Now I believe LHO was one of the shooters. They were living apart at the time, why isn't given, he brought his gun and put it in the garage. The next morning it was gone. A gun (rifle) was left on the floor with three spent shells so they say. It occurred to me how was the window? Was it one that could be opened and shut again?

So who were the other shooter(s)? I read GHWB was in Dallas that day. JFK had it for the CIA. Jack Ruby was involved with the mob (as was RFK coming down on them). So that could be a motive. Obviously they would have hired somebody.

Totally cold blooded heartless killing and no regard for Jackie or anyone else in the motorcade.

Here are all the people or groups that were upset with JFK.

The CIA and by extension maybe the FBI. LBJ. Castro. The Russians. The mob. Something with France, not sure what, doubt it was them. Israel, Ben Gurion was mad because JFK didn't want them to get nukes at Dimona.

I'm not sure who dunnit. I don't see how they could have pulled it off from the grassy knoll without being seen.

The answer to my question why Jackie kept on the bloody clothes, the NYT and others have quoted her as saying, "I want them to see what THEY did to (him, my husband, JFK)". They could lie about that, too, I suppose.

[politicianslie]

I have shown the audio recording of the police radio matches the timing of the Zapruder film to thousands of people. I've found that for people to really get it, they have to UNDERSTAND WHY that is true.

When you look at the Zapruder film, there is a lot going on. To say THIS IS DEFINITELY WHEN ONE OF THE SHOTS OCCURRED, you need a bit more information than just a rapid movement seen in the film that "MIGHT be due to a shot" IF you do that kind of analysis, your work is little more than a series of guesses. But once you know for sure that there is an audio recording of the shots then you know it's analysis gives significant additional information. And with that additional knowledge, you can solve the "mystery" all the way to WHO and WHY JFK was killed even though the lies have convinced millions of people they will never know the truth.

How do I know the police audio recording did record the sounds of the gunshots? There are definitely two times in the Zapruder film that we can see reactions due to gunshots.

Frame 224 Connally and JFK react to a gunshot

Frame 313 JFK is shot in the head

The FBI measured the Zapruder camera film speed as 18.3 frames per second. A simple calculation shows the time between frames 224 and 313 is 4.8 seconds.

If we look at the acoustical analysis results, we see the time between shots 3 and 4 is 4.8 seconds.

THIS IS A BIG DEAL! It shows that the audio recording likely did record the sounds of the shots otherwise you are forced to argue that the audio experts guessed 4.8 seconds for the time between shots exactly like the Zapruder film shows.

Then I looked at the time in the audio analysis and saw that the last shot was fired a split second after the JFK head shot. AND WHAT DO YOU SEE THEN?

The gov't and virtually everyone the planet Earth thought that Gov. Connally was pulled over into Nellie's lap as she was trying to save his life. But when you look closer, you see Gov Connally not pulled over into her lap but instead violently thrown forward. The audio analysis also gives us an idea WHERE the last shot was fired from and that was from the Texas School Book Depository.

Here is what happened for the last two shots:

Gov Connally reacted and turned to look over his right shoulder right after he emerged from the sign .

For several seconds we see JFK holding his neck and slumping, obviously wounded but also obviously not fatally. Two of the gunmen aimed for another shot.

1)The first fired from the right front hits JFK in the head and drives him back and to the left directly away from the gunman on the grassy knoll

2) The shooter from behind in the Texas School Book Depository (TSBD) fired a split second later, the shot missed JFK's head and hit Connally in the back, knocking him violently forward in his seat, directly away from the gunman in the TSBD.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Cortex_2005/zapruder.gif

When you UNDERSTAND what happened during the shooting, you then look at the government's evidence and their explanations of the shooting scenario. Most everyone has tried to find a consistent scenario that would fit with the autopsy photographs, it would explain why people in Parkland thought they saw a large hole in the back of JFK's head, it would explain why so many people disagreed with so much of the Warren Comm. report. But instead, the audio evidence is inconsistent with a significant amount of evidence provided by the US government which means that because we have shown the audio evidence is valid, we have also shown that significant amounts of evidence is FORGED.

Saying it another way, only one thing can be right. Either the audio evidence is valid or the government's evidence is valid. One of them stinks to high heaven and because we know 4.8 seconds is common to both the audio recording and the Zapruder fim, we know the US government lied and forged to hide the truth.

Once you get to that point, you are then ready to start to figure out WHO was behind this brutal murder and scam of a cover up. There are only a handful of people who could pull off a huge lie like this. Once you prove the US government forged evidence, you soon know who was behind the assassination. Then you can start to look and understand how LHO was set up to look guilty beyond question. The US government will and did tell any lie to hide who killed JFK. But be very careful when you look at information, if you look at just what I showed you in this post and compare it to Bugliosi's RECLAIMING HISTORY, it will not match. There are some honest mistakes that have hid the truth but there are also huge lies too. You must identify and correct mistakes and lies before you can get right answers. That is one the reasons over a thousand books and documentaries have missed their target, they tried to use forged evidence to make it fit.

[Aliska]

Maybe it was Colonel Mustard on the grassy knoll.

The govt confiscated the Zapruder film. They (or somebody) got ahold of the acoustical analysis. How do you know that wasn't forged?. One place I saw they took out a few frames of the Zapruder film.

I will assume what you posted is complete whether the govt got ahold of it or not.

I will never figure out WHO from that.

[Aliska]

The govt gave Marina his wedding ring back. It has a hammer and sickle engraved in it.

[politicianslie]

Actually, LIFE magazine bought the rights to the Zapruder film and then locked it away, it was "too" bloody for the public :-)

That lasted until Jim Garrison subpoenaed the film for the New Orleans Clay Shaw trial. Garrison released copies and finally in 1975 it was shown on midnight TV. It created a firestorm because no one with an IQ even approaching room temperature would ever believe the shot that hit JFK in the head was fired from behind.

LOOK AT GOV CONNALLY BLASTED FORWARD IMMEDIATLEY AFTER JFK IS SHOT IN THE HEAD! That is what the audio evidence PROVES happened.

The House Select Committee on Assassinations started after the TV show to re-look at the Warren Comm evidence. The HSCA had a draft which said one gunman fired three shots when at the end of the "investigation" the audio experts started to piece it all together. They showed the audio evidence indicated that the last two shots were BANG-BANG. Of those TWO SHOTS

Frame 313 fired from right front, hit JFK in the head

Frame 325 fired from BEHIND (last shot from Tex School Book Depository), missed JFK's head and hit Connally in the back.

But the gov't censors would NOT let the audio experts show that, the forced them to show that the shot that hit JFK in the head was the last one fired from behind, not the one that was fired from the left front. AND THEN THEY INSULT YOUR INTELLIGENCE BY TELLING YOU, SEE, THE SHOT FROM IN FRONT MISSED!

The US gov't will tell any lie to keep you from understanding the obvious scenario, a powerful conspiracy killed JFK. The US gov't was hijacked by the conspirators and lie after lie was told. Today, if you UNDERSTAND the mathematics behind the acoustical evidence, you will UNDERSTAND that the US gov't in 1978 could not have forged it, so they did everything they could to DISCREDIT IT!

It's easy to lie to Americans, fool the press and the PRESSTITUES will harass anybody who disagrees with what they say.

Look at this short sequence, JFK is shot in the head from the right front and then the last shot was fired from behind, it missed JFK's head and hit Connally in the back. The PhD's who bought the gubermint lie hook line and sinker are going crazy to hide the truth. They look like total idiots and Americans are not going to be happy when they finally realize that the US government is corrupt beyond belief. It started when JFK was brutally murdered by the insiders. You can know WHO they were when you understand what happened during the shooting. It ain't rocket science and yes, you can understand it well enough to get the bottom line.