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A Great Panel Discussion (Vanity)
Fox Sports | 11/10/13 | Fox NFL Sunday

Posted on 11/10/2013 9:58:08 AM PST by JennysCool

I'm usually the first to give grief to the media, so I thought I'd give kudos to the Fox NFL Sunday team for an intelligent, heartfelt, and just plain good panel discussion about the Rickie Incognito - Johnathan Martin mess. Strange that one of the best panel discussions I've seen in a long time is on an NFL pregame show, but these are pretty smart guys. Well done.

Good. Now I can go back to media-bashing! :)


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: fox; incognito; martin

1 posted on 11/10/2013 9:58:09 AM PST by JennysCool
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To: JennysCool

Jay Glaser did a heckuva good interview with Incognito, as well.


2 posted on 11/10/2013 9:58:55 AM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: JennysCool

The media is broken. They decide what the truth is. I’ve learned this the hard way and have lost a lot of friends because of it.


3 posted on 11/10/2013 10:02:23 AM PST by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: JennysCool

” good panel discussion “

For those of us that missed it can you give us a clue on what was said?


4 posted on 11/10/2013 10:03:46 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: JennysCool

Thanks for letting me know, I think.


5 posted on 11/10/2013 10:07:46 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: TexasGator; 1rudeboy

Not so much what was said, as the manner the discussion went. Civilized, occasionally personal, quite a bit of talk about how the media tends to rush to judgment and attempts to neatly put things “in a box” without providing enough time to understand the WHOLE story. It was just really good to see an intelligent conversation on an ongoing cultural story without raised voices, finger-pointing and partisan rancor. Just well-done, I thought, and worth giving some kudos.

Meanwhile, this Raiders-Giants game is just nuts!


6 posted on 11/10/2013 10:17:20 AM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: JennysCool

aaaaaND I care,....for what?


7 posted on 11/10/2013 10:24:11 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Safetgiver

Well, you clicked on the thread, didn’t you?


8 posted on 11/10/2013 10:30:16 AM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: JennysCool

I did not see the very beginning of the interview, so I may be off base (ha, no mixed-sports pun intended) but I thought Glazer should have asked Incognito about his reputation before this whole situation. For example, being voted “dirtiest player” in the NFL.


9 posted on 11/10/2013 10:38:42 AM PST by jocon307
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To: jocon307

Glazer did mention that Incognito had a bad rep, but you’re right, he probably should have gone deeper into that to see if there was a pattern of similar behavior.


10 posted on 11/10/2013 10:43:48 AM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: JennysCool
I don't know all the facts here, but rushing to judgment based on media reports would be foolish. I smell a rat. Here's why. Look at the main elements:

1) outrage and charges of bullying 2) implicit here as always is racism 3) the workplace/environment here is the NFL

Now how convenient is it that some of the hottest, most fashionable causes today of the left converge in a single imbroglio? Is it coincidence or a phony narrative they construct for their own ends? We know, if we're paying attention, that charges of racism are a hammer the left employees to subdue their ideological opponents and pound out their vision; and I think we can now see the bullying hysteria in the same light. Bullying can be defined equally as broadly and baselessly as racism, and with the same chilling effect. Here we are presented with the tale of a mean white man bullying an innocent, helpless black man. BAD! And that simplistic narrative is not very credible, really.

It also evident the left would like to see the NFL go away and will punish and sabotage it with hope of picking at the carcass later on down the road. That's what the left does- destroy. Is Incognito an angel? I don't think so- he seems like a bit of an ogre but maybe I'm mistaken. He's an offensive lineman after all, not a concierge. I know next to nothing about Martin other than he's painted as a baby-victim in need of our nation's coddling and protection. Could be, though if he's not I'm not sure that will not be suppressed.

I'm highly skeptical that things are as we're lead to believe by the media apparati. We'll see.

11 posted on 11/10/2013 10:56:14 AM PST by Dysart (Obamacare: "We are losing money on every subscriber-- but we will make it up in volume!")
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To: Dysart

Good post! You would have fit right in with that panel today!


12 posted on 11/10/2013 10:57:58 AM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: JennysCool

I keep thinking that ESPN is stoking this thing to build ratings for Monday Night Football which this Monday happens to feature the Dolphins.


13 posted on 11/10/2013 11:20:18 AM PST by mainship_man
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To: JennysCool

this is the media’s new Martin/Zimmerman theme all over again....NFL style.


14 posted on 11/10/2013 11:40:42 AM PST by battletank
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To: JennysCool

And I agree with you, it was a good panel. Hope you didn’t watch the CBS panel! Seriously, Shannon Sharpe was pointing and spitting for minutes on end SCREAMING! That idiot should be fired. Today!


15 posted on 11/10/2013 11:42:15 AM PST by battletank
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To: TexasGator
For those of us that missed it can you give us a clue on what was said?

It would seem that Martin sort of freaked out which is sad since he seems to be a bright kid with one heck of a future.

The FOX interviewer was given Incognito's text messages (there were hundreds it looked like) and yes they were raw and profane as might be expected between players even friends on the same team. The "N" word was used in a private conversation. Was the word wrong? I can't say since it was a "private" conversation and only one of many private conversations between the parties.

Sadly the race pimps and the greasy news prostitutes have gotten their talons into the matter and they will not let go. This is something that should and could be resolved by the players themselves.

16 posted on 11/10/2013 12:43:57 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: battletank
Hope you didn’t watch the CBS panel!

Probably just a reaction to not having anyone to interview.

17 posted on 11/10/2013 12:49:40 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Mike Darancette

Exactly, Mike. Thanks for elaborating on the subject way better than I did! I just was way impressed with the discussion after being fed so many of the over the top panels the media thinks draw ratings. Some of us still like a calm examination of an issue, and is that ever rare on the tube!


18 posted on 11/10/2013 2:05:26 PM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: battletank

Missed the CBS panel, but I know I didn’t miss much! It always seems like there’s some director on the set barking “Fight! Yell! DO something!” Yet it always ends up the stodgiest, most unintelligent and most boring sports panel in world history.


19 posted on 11/10/2013 2:14:03 PM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: JennysCool

Thanks. I’ll look for it. It’s been a racist soap opera from the media so far.


20 posted on 11/10/2013 2:28:46 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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