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1 posted on 11/06/2013 9:26:30 AM PST by Rusty0604
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You want to demilitarize the police? End the WOD.


2 posted on 11/06/2013 9:39:30 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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No longer is it unusual to hear about incidents in which police shoot unarmed individuals first and ask questions later. What is unusual is our lack of outrage, the relative disinterest of our elected representatives, the media’s abysmal failure to ask questions and demand answers, and our growing acceptance of the status quo in the United Police States of America—a status quo in which “we the people” are powerless in the face of the heavy-handed tactics employed by the government and its armed agents.

We have been silent about too many things for too long, not the least of which is the deadly tendency on the part of police to resort to lethal force. However, as Martin Luther King Jr. reminded us, “There comes a time when silence is betrayal.”

John Whitehead PING

3 posted on 11/06/2013 9:40:27 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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"To protect and serve" the community the department.

THIS is the crux of the problem! A perfect storm of fear of lawsuits causing police departments to be hostile against their communities and OVERPROTECTIVE OF THEMSELVES, PLUS our gubmint helping to militarize them, has created an adversarial animal that can no longer be trusted.

The labor unions have hijacked the mindsets of cops to be arrogant and selfish bullies. They've done the same thing to teachers!

4 posted on 11/06/2013 9:44:22 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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When did the line between SWAT teams and normal cops get blurred? Post 9/11 for sure. Earlier? I’m kind of fascinated by this and want to learn a bit more of the history. I noticed that cops were replacing the Remingtons and Mossbergs in their cruisers with AR15s (even campus police at WSU in Detroit)more so in recent years, something I didn’t see when I was growing up.


6 posted on 11/06/2013 9:45:19 AM PST by Antihero101607
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One giant entity all merged into 'Big Brother'. Disgusting!

"Office of Investigations"

"Special Response Team"

"Homeland Security"

"Immigration and Customs Enforcement"

"Police"

"Rescue"

7 posted on 11/06/2013 9:50:16 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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Yes, we need to end the police state. The criminal prosecution for traffic violations is beyond acceptable. If you have outstanding traffic tickets, they should not be able to arrest you and throw you in with the rest of the criminals in the jail. Simply deny registration for your vehicle, or license renewal, etc. If you do not pay and get caught driving, then vehicle confiscation. This BS of making money off of throwing people in jail for traffic violations is BS. Drugs or drinking and driving? that’s different. Stop making the US a police state.


8 posted on 11/06/2013 9:56:39 AM PST by 9422WMR (: " Tolerance is the virtue of a man who has no convictions".)
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Yet as William Norman Grigg, a commentator for LewRockwell.com, points out, such a “preoccupation with ‘officer safety’ … leads to unnecessary police shootings. A peace officer is paid to assume certain risks, including those necessary to de-escalate a confrontation with someone believed to be a heavily armed suspect in a residential neighborhood.”

Weird, sounds like what I've been saying for years.

It's all about "getting home safely". Which means, of course, that the risk is now borne by free citizens, and not LEOs.
12 posted on 11/06/2013 10:04:00 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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http://www.theonion.com/articles/breaking-authorities-currently-racing-down-highway,34462/


14 posted on 11/06/2013 10:22:57 AM PST by TomServo
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It occurred to me recently that cops might be receiving too much, or too much of the wrong kind of training today, training shapes guys and pumps them up, teaches them to come to see themselves as elite soldiers operating in a hostile world, surrounded by unpredictable, but deadly people and adversaries, while they can only trust and depend on their own, on their fellow uniforms.

Combat oriented training, always concentrating on attack and fight and tactical defense, and then giving them weapons that resemble what soldiers use, can create a culture of “enforcer”, of “a survivor”, rather than that of a kind but firm, fatherly, beat cop.

Soldiers that serve in elite units sometimes have to be brought down to earth with reminders to get their feet back on the ground and lay off the ego, macho stuff, because the high speed training can make one start feeling like a superman, as “special”, and soldiers aren’t patrolling your kids hamburger joint and stopping you on the way to Walmart like the local union cop is.


15 posted on 11/06/2013 10:53:09 AM PST by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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waiting for the social(ist) conservatives to support this in..

3...2...1


20 posted on 11/06/2013 3:01:26 PM PST by joe fonebone (a socialist is just a juvenile communist)
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The Rutherford Institute and ACLU are similar. What both organizations fail to acknowledge is that they are partially responsible for the alleged police state. The illegals, criminal element from south of the border and gangbangers are almost a protected class.


32 posted on 11/06/2013 4:46:36 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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