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Ping.
Dead issue....it was irrelevant during the 08 campaign. It was irrelevant
during the 08 election. It was irrelevant during the 12 campaign and it was
a non issue during the 12 election. Barack Obama’s citizenship, paternity
and eligibility for office was never an issue for the media, congress or the courts. It was and is irrlevant and unless the US military steps up and
arrests virtually the entire administration, federal court judiciary and the
majority of the members of congress for treason the issue will remain
totally irrelevant.
Very interesting.
I’m. done getting all stirred up about these issues. Our Rino leaders lack the resolve to do anything about it.
Thought you might find this of interest.
(And maybe worth a nut-job conspiracy ping.)
All of Congress is complicit in the forgery since not one of them has done anything about it.
Jarrett, Ben Rhodes, or maybe Alex Okrent but he is already dead.
I no longer read these birther articles. They set my teeth on edge and I feel powerless and depressed.
May God save this nation because it is imploding fast.
A lot of questions come to mind upon reading the affidavit. I wish there was a way to get together the various researchers so we could cross-examine each other’s evidence, assumptions, and conclusions, as well as subject all of it to the legal standards necessary to establish probable cause.
Maybe somebody can tell me the difference between a computer scanner and a commercial photocopier. Do both use green-based light, which would remove green from an image?
I come from a scientific bent. The way you know how stuff works is by trying it and observing what happens. If I want to know whether a seal - either with dots and dashes, or with solid lines - will show up in a scan I scan those kinds of seals and see what happens. If I want to see what will show up in a photo I take photos. Etc. I don’t have to rely on the qualifications of any person and trust them to be telling me the truth; I just let nature itself tell me how things are. It’s a scientific process.
Seals don’t always show up in a scan. They always show up in a photograph. If they break the surface of the paper they show up in a scan; if they bend the paper they sometimes show up in a scan and sometimes don’t. Case in point: the continuous-line HDOH Director’s seal shows up clearly in a scan of the MDEC letter of verification. It doesn’t show up in scans of AZ’s or KS’s letters. I questioned whether the seal was on the AZ letter because there is no evidence of it in the scan that was posted online. But I had some colleagues go to the AZ SOS’s office and take photos of the document; the seal could ALWAYS be seen in the photos. Even when the image couldn’t be seen visually in the photo, when you adjusted the brightness and contrast it could ALWAYS be seen. So there is a difference between a copier or scanner taking a photo of a document, versus a camera taking a photo. I don’t know what the difference is, or why it is there, but I observe that there is a difference.
The BC numbering is an issue that has OBVIOUSLY been obfuscated by deceptions. There are two stories about exactly when the numbers were given in 1961. HDOH Communications Director Okubo says they were numbered the same day as they were received at the state registrar’s office (which is what Vogt bases his analysis on). The 1976 Administrative Rules use the numbering synonymously with official acceptance of the record - after which amendments must be formally made through a specific process. But Virginia Sunahara’s death certificate has amendments after official acceptance that never went through the official amendment process. Then again, her death certificate has 4 blatant anomalies just in the first line...
The other story is that the BC’s were collected for a month and then numbered. The CDC keypunching manual from 1960 (in effect in 1961) shows that the microfilm that HI sent to the CDC each month had all the births within a designated geographic area together and numbered consecutively. The only way to do that is if the BC’s were collected for a month and then numbered, because the HDOH office would receive BC’s from the city of Honolulu along with BC’s from places outside Honolulu - like Wahiawa, where Virginia Sunahara was born. The local registrar at the time (Verna K L Lee) has said that the BC’s were collected for a month and the BC’s for each geographic area were put in chronological order. But there is information I can’t tell anybody that suggests that the HDOH and/or Verna Lee are talking out of both sides of their mouth on that as well.
Regardless of which way the BC’s were numbered, Obama’s BC# doesn’t work exactly. And no matter what explanation is given, there are other BC#’s that also don’t work. And they are errors that go beyond simple mis-ordering by an office worker. For instance, Sunahara’s death certificate that has not only an anomalous BC# (by ALL possible numbering methods) but anomalous fonts and a discrepancy between whether HI was a state or a territory at the time!!!
What it comes down to is this: there has obviously been so much deception regarding EVERY policy and practice that somehow involves Obama’s BC, that the only way to know what really happened, and what all official records have been altered, when, by whom, and why, is by looking at the actual historical records, including multiple years’ worth of paper records, microfilm records, and computer transaction logs. That is why we need a federal investigation in which production of those records can be COMPELLED. We know that deceptions and crimes have been committed by the HDOH involving every other state in the union because it foists document and election fraud on all of us.
I don’t know the grand jury process, or how a federal investigation can be compelled, but that’s what needs to happen.
Funny how hussein and Hillary stated in their very own Senate Resolution 511 that NBC meant born on US soil of two US citizen parents but no one has confronted him with that.
The courts have consistently ruled that Obama is a natural born citizen and that he is the president. No court has ever ruled otherwise. Congress has sent him about 700 bills to sign into law and the Senate has confirmed hundreds of his appointees, some were confirmed unanimously.
Barnett, Keyes, et. al v Obama, et. al., US District Court Judge David O. Carter: “There may very well be a legitimate role for the judiciary to interpret whether the natural born citizen requirement has been satisfied in the case of a presidential candidate who has not already won the election and taken office. However, on the day that President Obama took the presidential oath and was sworn in, he became President of the United States. Any removal of him from the presidency must be accomplished through the Constitution’s mechanisms for the removal of a President, either through impeachment or the succession process set forth in the Twenty-Fifth Amendment. Plaintiffs attempt to subvert this grant of power to Congress by convincing the Court that it should disregard the constitutional procedures in place for the removal of a sitting president. The process for removal of a sitting president—REMOVAL FOR ANY REASON—is within the province of Congress, not the courts.”—U.S. District Court for the Central District of California, October 29, 2009
http://ia600204.us.archive.org/1/items/gov.uscourts.cacd.435591/gov.uscourts.cacd.435591.89.0.pdf
Tisdale v Obama, US District Court Judge John A. Gibney, Jr.: “It is well settled that those born within the United States are natural born citizens.”— Tisdale v Obama, US District Court of the Eastern District of Virginia, January 23, 2012.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/82011399/Tisdale-v-Obama-EDVA-3-12-cv-00036-Doc-2-ORDER-23-Jan-2012
Rhodes v MacDonald, US District Court Judge Clay D. Land: “A spurious claim questioning the president’s constitutional legitimacy may be protected by the First Amendment, but a Court’s placement of its imprimatur upon a claim that is so lacking in factual support that it is frivolous would undoubtedly disserve the public interest.”—US District Court for the Middle District of Georgia, September 16, 2009.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19809978/RHODES-v-MacDONALD-13-ORDER-denying-3-Motion-for-TRO-granting-8-Motion-to-Dismiss-Ordered-by-Judge-Clay-D-Land-on-09162009-CGC-Entered-0
"Identifies" as Jane Doe #2?
Tells us a lot.
How many forgers does he know?
And how, out of all the forgers in the world did he find the right one?
This would carry more weight if Vogt were a typewriter expert, rather than another self-proclaimed expert in digital imagery.
One thing I did learn about manual typewriters is that that they are notoriously unreliable. What they do looks very different from what today's electronic printers put out, and that's all the more true when you add the human element.
Still, I hope they throw the book at Savannah Guthrie. Is the death penalty an option?
In the complaint Vogt says<
“10 The tenth point of forgery is the inconsistent line spacing on the COLB which a manual typewriter would not do”
All the manual typewriters I’ve used had a variable line spacing mechanism, either a lever or a button that allowed you to set the line spacing just about anyway you wanted. It was a feature made specifically for filling out forms.
Zero the usurping fraud who’s past/background have been scrubbed and his blatantly forged “birth certificate” and lack of providing a birth document will be investigated for years to come, however the scumbag and his handlers have already committed treason and proven themselves domestic enemies of the Constitution by violating it’s charter and cavorting with terrorist Muzzie Brotherhood in the White Hut, arming them abroad, the various scandals of domestic spying, IRS, etc. And it’s only going to keep getting worse. The traitorous ruling class in both parties is also guilty. So finding truth, accountability and justice for a simple birth document, Fast and Furious scandal , Justice Dept going after reporters, etc etc etc all amounts to same dead end when corruption and lawlessness abound. Stock up on lead and prayers for the coming hellstorm and hopefully we can restore the Republic.
This is the most undervalued thread of the year. More important than Benghazi, IRS scandal, HHS scandal, NSA and DOJ eavesdropping scandals combined. All these scandals started with one bad pedigree!