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Crew of US ship arrested after it entered Indian waters carrying a 'huge cache
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Posted on 10/21/2013 5:42:57 PM PDT by traumer

Six Britons have been arrested in India after their ship sailed into the country’s waters allegedly carrying a huge cache of illegal weapons.

The men – some of whom are believed to be ex-SAS – were among the crew of MV Seaman Guard Ohio which Indian officials branded a ‘floating armoury’.

Police said they seized 35 assault rifles and nearly 5,700 rounds of ammunition from guards on the U.S.-owned vessel.

The Indian coast guard stopped the ship, which belongs to security firm AdvanFort, on Saturday and detained 33 crew members.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: maritime

1 posted on 10/21/2013 5:42:57 PM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer

Straight to Syria


2 posted on 10/21/2013 5:44:38 PM PDT by struggle
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To: traumer

Straight to Syria


3 posted on 10/21/2013 5:44:38 PM PDT by struggle
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To: traumer

EXCESSIVE?
“35 assault rifles and nearly 5,700 rounds of ammunition “

that’s a decent stock of an average prepper....


4 posted on 10/21/2013 5:44:43 PM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer
Well, Eric .... ?

Eric?

5 posted on 10/21/2013 5:44:50 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof .... but they're true)
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To: traumer

35 rifles and 5700 rounds of ammunition is hardly a huge cache.


6 posted on 10/21/2013 5:45:48 PM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: traumer
35 assault rifles and nearly 5,700 rounds of ammunition

"Huge cache".

Snort.

7 posted on 10/21/2013 5:45:50 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: traumer

Not much ammo to start anything, but it’d be OK for fam fire, I guess.


8 posted on 10/21/2013 5:46:01 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: traumer

Were two of their names Carnahan and Dravot?


9 posted on 10/21/2013 5:47:42 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Billthedrill

a CIA black-op ?


10 posted on 10/21/2013 5:48:12 PM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer

I’d say the owners are taking precautions against Somali pirates. Ex-SAS, 35 rifles and 5,700 rounds doesn’t sound like smuggling.


11 posted on 10/21/2013 5:49:37 PM PDT by Spirochete (Does the FedGov have the attributes of a legitimate government?)
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To: traumer
Police said they seized 35 assault rifles and nearly 5,700 rounds of ammunition from guards on the U.S.-owned vessel.

Are the Indians freaking serious? I bet it took them all of 2 minutes to collect all this 'contraband' and haul if off the ship.

12 posted on 10/21/2013 5:49:52 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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Sounds like they may have just been concerned about protecting sea traffic from Somali pirates.

India is big on disarmament. Those Muslim attacks on hotels in India were so successful because most Indian police are not armed.


13 posted on 10/21/2013 5:50:12 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: traumer

Maybe, but kind of an odd one. That would equip a platoon, barely, with 160 rounds per weapon. Not exactly a war load, maybe a small terrorist operation, maybe for trade for something else. Drugs? Information? Your guess is as good as mine.


14 posted on 10/21/2013 5:52:06 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: traumer
Police said they seized 35 assault rifles and nearly 5,700 rounds of ammunition from guards on the U.S.-owned vessel.

Sounds like a rather paltry effort at self defense against piracy.

15 posted on 10/21/2013 5:52:53 PM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

On their way to Kafiristan?


16 posted on 10/21/2013 5:56:11 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: The_Victor
What is that? ~200 rounds per rifle?

Barely enough for a trip to the range.

17 posted on 10/21/2013 5:56:32 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: The_Victor
Police said they seized 35 assault rifles and nearly 5,700 rounds of ammunition from guards on the U.S.-owned vessel.
Sounds like a rather paltry effort at self defense against piracy.


I wouldn’t sail within a 1000 miles of that region without at least twice the amount of ammo. I will reserve judgment on the adequacy of the 35 rifles pending a more detailed breakdown of the inventory.

18 posted on 10/21/2013 6:02:13 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: traumer
35 assault rifles and nearly 5,700 rounds of ammunition

Prudent anti-piracy precautions?

19 posted on 10/21/2013 6:02:38 PM PDT by fso301
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To: traumer

Many countries do not allow weapons aboard commercial vessels entering port. If the Master were to fail to declare any on board weapons to the Harbor Master, the vessel and cargo could be seized. Security companies providing on board anti piracy protection for these commercial vessels must have a support ship that keeps the weapons and other keep equipment in International Waters, beyond the reach of authorities. They must make port only at countries that will permit it, or with the right bribe, look the other way.

It sounds like this was a vessel in distress due to storms and needed a safe haven. The Indian authorities knew that weapons were on board and probably granted them permission to enter Indian waters for the purposes of arresting them and their vessel.

One hopes that unarmed and unprotected Indian merchantmen are paying the proper surcharge to their maritime insurance premium, they are probably prime targets for pirates.


20 posted on 10/21/2013 6:06:58 PM PDT by centurion316
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This article explains what is going on. This is a security protection mother ship. India has their nose out of joint over some Italian Marines who shot a couple of Indian fishermen, mistaking them for pirates

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57608126/india-arrests-35-from-u.s-security-firm-advanforts-well-armed-anti-piracy-mother-ship/

AdvanFort is a U.S. company. Their website explains who they are and what they do. No secrets here, just protecting commercial shipping from piracy, something that most navies of the world are refusing to do.


21 posted on 10/21/2013 6:17:28 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: traumer

I gotta check my gun safe, see if anything is missing...


22 posted on 10/21/2013 6:19:57 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: traumer

Indian officials branded a ‘floating armoury’.

Leave it to the Indians to not call an armory an arsenal...


23 posted on 10/21/2013 6:24:06 PM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: traumer
HUGE WEAPONS CACHE


24 posted on 10/21/2013 6:24:22 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: traumer

33 crew members and 35 rifles. One for each man and two spares. That seems about right.

5700 rounds of ammo is not much given the number of rifles. Since they were at sea they should have at least one case of 1000 rounds for each rifle.


25 posted on 10/21/2013 6:25:49 PM PDT by OldMissileer
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To: traumer

Seaman Guard?


26 posted on 10/21/2013 6:51:34 PM PDT by Stand W (Crush your enemies! See them driven before you! Hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: traumer

Well put.


27 posted on 10/21/2013 7:01:13 PM PDT by mfish13 (ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!!)
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To: traumer

33 crew members with 35 rifles? They aren’t very good gun runners.


28 posted on 10/21/2013 7:10:20 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: traumer
Six Britons have been arrested in India after their ship sailed into the country’s waters allegedly carrying a huge cache of illegal weapons.

"Huge cache?" 35 "assault rifles," and 6k rounds of ammo is a huge cache?

I guess that could be considered a huge cache if you just lost all your firearms in a boating accident.

Oh, what's an "illegal" weapon anyway?

Never mind, I don't care, they're in Indian waters.

Was that racist?

5.56mm

29 posted on 10/21/2013 7:11:34 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: traumer

I would say 1000 rounds per rifle is a minimum. These guys seem woefully short of ammo.


30 posted on 10/21/2013 7:37:17 PM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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To: traumer

Hopefully they left with much more than 5,700 rounds but found the chance to deposit some into a pirate’s ass.


31 posted on 10/21/2013 8:03:05 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Spirochete

DING DING DING. We have a WINNER!!!


32 posted on 10/21/2013 9:04:43 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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