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Tim Tebow News: Quarterback Receives Million Dollar Offer from KISS LA
Christian Post ^ | 09/10/2013 | BRITTNEY R. VILLALVA

Posted on 09/10/2013 8:43:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Moonman62

Sorry but the history says otherwise. Again: first SB to sell out, first SB to have better ratings than the separate championships (technically league) that came before, first SB to have high profile celebrity attendance, first SB to be called Super Bowl. Something had to spawn all that, and it sure wasn’t the matchup everybody thought was going to be another vicious beating of an AFL team by an NFL team.


61 posted on 09/10/2013 3:48:54 PM PDT by discostu (This is why we have ants!)
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To: discostu
So what you're saying is Namath had a great game because he was popular and exciting, and wasn't expected to win. Tebow had a much better game statistically, is just as popular and exciting, and also wasn't expected to win.

Tim Tebow Tops Forbes' 2013 List Of America's Most Influential Athletes

62 posted on 09/10/2013 5:47:52 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

No, Namath had a so-so game, but it MATTERED because he was popular and exciting, and in so doing helped cement the merger and give us the modern NFL. SBIII was great for it’s place in history, Namath was the winning QB. But in the end the reason he kept having a career is because he could complete passes. Something Tebow can’t do.


63 posted on 09/11/2013 8:09:27 AM PDT by discostu (This is why we have ants!)
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To: discostu

Namath’s career stats:

Pass attempts 3,762
Pass completions 1,886
Percentage 50.1
TD-INT 173–220
Passing yards 27,663
QB Rating 65.5

When you consider Tebow’s running ability I don’t think Namath is any better.


64 posted on 09/11/2013 9:04:17 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

It was a different game then, a lot more run oriented, the whole timing pattern/ west coast offense thing hadn’t been invented, completion percentages league wide were lower then. Tebow might have succeeded then. That was 40 years ago, it’s a passing league now, now a QB needs to be able to read a defense pre-snap, know which of his guys is going to be open 4 1/2 seconds after the snap, 3 step drop, throw to the guy that will be open when the ball gets there. Tebow has demonstrated he can’t do that.


65 posted on 09/11/2013 9:16:35 AM PDT by discostu (This is why we have ants!)
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To: discostu

Tebow has demonstrated that he can win games, more than he loses.


66 posted on 09/11/2013 9:23:19 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

No, he’s demonstrated he can capitalize on a good defense. Giving him the win stats ignores the other 52 on the field. When a team wins a game that the QB completes 10 or fewer passes in declaring they won because of the QB is just stupid, they won IN SPITE of the QB. The facts are in, he’s a bad QB. He got his chances, 4 training camps, 4 coaches, 3 teams, never got higher than 3rd on the depth chart. Time for him, and you, to accept the plainly obvious reality: Tim Tebow is not NFL QB material. Just like the scouts were saying when he was in college.


67 posted on 09/11/2013 9:25:47 AM PDT by discostu (This is why we have ants!)
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To: discostu

The same 52 that couldn’t win at the beginning of the season or the same 52 that couldn’t win at the beginning of Manning’s first season.


68 posted on 09/11/2013 9:36:25 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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The same 52 that reduced their average points allowed per game by over 14 when Tebow started. And many of the same 52 that rattled off an 11 game win streak with Manning.


69 posted on 09/11/2013 9:41:56 AM PDT by discostu (This is why we have ants!)
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And many of the same 52 that could not win a playoff game.......at home........after a bye week............
70 posted on 09/11/2013 10:02:00 AM PDT by Lakeshark (KILL THE BILL! CALL. FAX. WRITE.)
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Or look at another big Heisman trophy winner : Matt Leinart as USC.

It got to the point where his own college coach, Pete Carroll, wouldn't even give up a single fourth round draft pick for the QB that won him a national championship.

71 posted on 09/11/2013 10:14:40 AM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Lakeshark

Happens. Although let’s face it, if one safety does his job on one play...


72 posted on 09/11/2013 10:15:02 AM PDT by discostu (This is why we have ants!)
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To: discostu
The same 52 that reduced their average points allowed per game by over 14 when Tebow started.

Tebow is a leader, the team responds positively to him, and in the games he played well, he had excellent ball control and scoring efficiency. Tebow plays his best in the 4th quarter and the team knew if they kept it close they could win, which they usually did.

73 posted on 09/11/2013 11:00:16 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: discostu
IF Assante Samuel makes an interception that he should have against the Giants on their last drive in 2008, and IF Wes Welker makes one normal catch in the last drive of last year's Super Bowl, then Tom Brady and the Patriots have won the most Super Bowls of any player or team, would have been considered the best player and team ever........happens........

Oh, and Tebow's win in overtime the year before, that last play.......happens.......

Have I mentioned the Buffalo Bills first Super Bowl? Wide right........happens.......

:-)

74 posted on 09/11/2013 11:07:43 AM PDT by Lakeshark (KILL THE BILL! CALL. FAX. WRITE.)
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To: Moonman62
Tebow is a leader, the team responds positively to him, and in the games he played well, he had excellent ball control and scoring efficiency. Tebow plays his best in the 4th quarter and the team knew if they kept it close they could win, which they usually did.

And yet he's sitting at home watching the games on TV. Apparently the NFL teams know something about Tebow and his abilities that you don't?

75 posted on 09/11/2013 12:17:26 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Moonman62

There’s plenty of potential leaders on a team, but there’s one guy paid to complete passes, Tebow had that job title but did not perform the job thus he is gone. And he didn’t have excellent ball control, his throw land in random place on the field, and “scoring efficiency” is a euphemism for “didn’t throw the ball much”. One of my favorite Maddenisms revolves around guys that get a lot of 4th quarter comebacks “the first part of a 4th quarter comeback is being behind after 3”, most coaches would rather have a QB that completes passes in ALL quarters so he doesn’t have to pull miracle comes from behind all the time.


76 posted on 09/11/2013 12:32:53 PM PDT by discostu (This is why we have ants!)
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To: Lakeshark

All of which goes to show exactly why it’s so retarded to give one player, especially one player that only completes 10 passes a game, credit for a win. you actually made my point.


77 posted on 09/11/2013 12:33:40 PM PDT by discostu (This is why we have ants!)
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To: discostu

Ball control means no turnovers and he did that well in the games he won, which was the majority. The leader of the team on the field is always considered to be the QB, especially when that QB is Tim Tebow.


78 posted on 09/11/2013 1:02:43 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

Ball control means completing passes. Which he doesn’t do. Hitting the grass instead of an opponent is what we call a Pyrrhic victory. QBs aren’t always the leader of a team, they call the plays, but there have been more than a few successful QBs that are not the rabble rousing type. There was chatter this off season about Aaron Rodgers not being a big leader type, but he completes passes.


79 posted on 09/11/2013 1:06:09 PM PDT by discostu (This is why we have ants!)
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To: discostu
you actually made my point.

Heck no, not even close, I spoke about three individual plays after you mentioned one other individual play. I'm not the one claiming one player is so important, that would be you.

80 posted on 09/11/2013 1:19:23 PM PDT by Lakeshark (KILL THE BILL! CALL. FAX. WRITE.)
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