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To: rockrr
The fact the South is doing very well was my point. We are attracting business and people who are finding that the South is a far different place than they have been told. Why I often wonder if we really did love in the long run.

The “leftism” you speak of IS COMING from the North and the Far Western US, and not just to the South but to the Midwest and such as well. We do have Yankees who move here wanting to “change” us backwards Southerners and they find more than a few wistful local Utopians to cheer them on. Indeed we have a paper here in Jackson that is full of their tripe. Fortunately the vast majority of folks that move here love what they see and fit right in rather quickly with the bulk of us who tend to be on the conservative side. Pure, no but old American values seem to be holding faster here than elsewhere this day and age.

I won't even begin to address the South wanting to expand the fed. That Hokum is put to bed by history rather well. But your side "won" so of course you are correct.

“Now that IS ironic - and sad as well.”

Why is it sad, are you a fan of Government over reach?

139 posted on 08/30/2013 10:27:20 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22; rockrr
ejonesie22: "I won't even begin to address the South wanting to expand the fed.
That Hokum is put to bed by history rather well."

Sorry, but "Hokum" is what pro-Confederates tell each other, and try to shove down the throats of anybody else who'll listen.

The fact is that up until they began declaring secession in late 1860, the "Slave Power" used the Federal Government in every way possible to enforce and buttress slavery laws even in non-slave states.
So it was the Slave Power which oppressed the nation.

Along with declaring secession, the Slave Power immediately began to provoke, start and formally declare war on the United States -- what could possibly be more oppressive that starting a war on your fellow countrymen?

And while we're at it, the allegedly "conservative South" was first in line to support every liberal-progressive Federal Government expansion for over 50 years -- from it's beginning with Southerner President Woodrow Wilson (1912) all the way up to the presidential election of 1964 -- Johnson versus Goldwater.
Then and only then did the "Solid South" really begin to think more conservatively.

And even then, all southern states voted for Peanut Carter in 1976 and most even for Zippers Clinton both times.

Only in recent years has the "Solid South" become solidly conservative.
For that they deserve huge credit and sincere thanks.

But please, let's not pretend that somehow Southerners were always opposed to the expansion of Federal powers.
The truth is: when it supported themselves, they loved more Big Government.

141 posted on 08/30/2013 10:51:54 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: ejonesie22; rockrr; BroJoeK
Gentlemen,

Is it not the fight against Democrats and their history of evil that we gave in common? The Democrat Party that has migrated North, South, East and West, has had and still has this evil slavery mentality which it has not turned away from before the Civil War; and has changed for the worse - it is worse now than before. We would do better to remind people of the Democrat slaver Party’s history of not only slavery, but of their racism, their KKK, their Progressive to socialists, communism, their hatred for god and Bible, their holocaust of babies, etc. They may now claim that they abhor the likes of the slavery of old, but in reality they just use different methods for the same means; some more ruthless then that of the 1800’s. The Democrat slaver Party as a whole is evil and indefensible, the whole being how they were and how they are (worse) today. Why would anyone want to defend the Democrat slavers of then and now?

142 posted on 08/30/2013 11:00:09 AM PDT by celmak
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To: ejonesie22
The “leftism” you speak of IS COMING from the North and the Far Western US, and not just to the South but to the Midwest and such as well.

Baloney. Leftists are entrenched in every corner of the country. Believing that is a cop-out and failure to accept responsibility for the problems in your own section. I participate on discussion sites that are hosted in various parts of the country including several in southern states. I read the opinions of people - "natives" and otherwise. It is blindly, naively foolish to blame all your troubles on carpetbaggers. Do you believe in the boogieman too?

Pure, no but old American values seem to be holding faster here than elsewhere this day and age.

The simple truth is that if you (editorial you) drive 30 minutes outside of virtually ANY city in ANY of the 50 United States you will find that same proclivity toward a more wholesome culture. ANY state. The south has no corner on the market - although I agree that they do hold those values to a greater degree per capita.

ME: “Now that IS ironic - and sad as well.”

You: Why is it sad, are you a fan of Government over reach?

No. What's sad is that otherwise decent and honorable people would go insane and attempt to blow up the world because they're not getting their way. Fortunately they are few and far in between.

146 posted on 08/30/2013 12:23:48 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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