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California college drops gun safety course to protect students, reduce panic and fear
Guns.com ^ | Aug 21, 2013 | Jennifer Cruz

Posted on 08/21/2013 1:43:11 PM PDT by Kip Russell

After six years of offering the non-credit yet popular NRA-based gun safety course, the Los Angeles Community College announced that the class has been dropped due to new restrictions set up by the school’s board of trustees. The Board of Trustees Vice President Scott Svonkin, who helped to write the new resolution, told Campus Reform in an interview Monday that he felt the school had no business teaching firearms safety, but rather the facility should have the responsibility to “promote gun control.”

“I believe that the NRA’s goal is to promote gun ownership, and that guns lead to deaths,” Svonkin explained. “So, not having the NRA teach classes, not having the NRA classes on our campuses, is a good thing.” “I’m much happier with the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department protecting our students and our staff and our faculty than having some random person who took a three-hour class and thinks that they’re Dirty Harry,” he added.

According to the new regulation, “Possession or display of firearms of any kind shall not be allowed… The prohibition shall apply even where a firearm is not operational.” However, Svonkin also admitted that he was not even sure what “non-operational” meant. “You know, I’m not an expert in guns,” he said.

The regulation then goes on to explain that the decision was made due to “ever-increasing, lethal violence on campuses throughout the United States.” Furthermore, that “the presence of firearms, even when nonoperational and in an educational setting, lends itself to the potential for panic and fear.” “We should make sure that students don’t come to campus being afraid to run into somebody with a gun,” Svonkin said.

However, Gerry Koehler, who teaches the gun safety course – which incidentally fills up every single session and results in an additional overflow class – questions the motives of Svonkin and other supporters of the new regulation. Koehler expressed that the idea a student could “run into somebody with a gun” was ridiculous, especially considering that the firearms used during the course are stored in a secured and locked room and that the class is taught with the blinds pulled down, as to not cause alarm to passersby.

Koehler also said that he asked the college’s president, Dr. Kathleen Burke-Kelly, if he could use plastic model guns to continue teaching the class, but she said no. The new regulation applies to all nine campuses. The new regulation applies to all nine campuses.

“She said they are not allowed to even have the mention of the world ‘gun’ in their campus catalog, which I find utterly ridiculous and a total violation of the First Amendment … now this is a First Amendment issue,” Koehler said.

Burke-Kelly declined to comment to media about the new regulation.

However, the regulation does allow an exemption for “theatrical performances.”

Koehler believes that the board’s decision is not so much about student safety as it is about political opposition.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: academia; alinskytactics; banglist; democrats; guncontrol; liberalfascism; liberalism; nra; scottsvonkin; secondamendment; svonkin; waronliberty
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1 posted on 08/21/2013 1:43:11 PM PDT by Kip Russell
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To: Kip Russell

God, I hate these people.


2 posted on 08/21/2013 1:44:42 PM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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So, the answer to aids, drug use etc. is education, education, education. Yet, when it cons to guns..........


3 posted on 08/21/2013 1:45:32 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Puppage

Ignorance is safety!


4 posted on 08/21/2013 1:48:05 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the people. T Jefferson)
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To: Kip Russell
According to the new regulation, “Possession or display of firearms brains of any kind shall not be allowed… The prohibition shall apply even where a firearm brain is not operational.” However, Svonkin also admitted that he was not even sure what “non-operational” meant. “You know, I’m not an expert on guns brains,” he said.
5 posted on 08/21/2013 1:51:52 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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The course is to be replaced with a course titled: Run and Hide 101 and with a follow-up course: Basic Roll up in a Ball and Begging for Your Life 102. A student may elect to take both courses at the same time which is course titled: Intermediate Bending Over and Kissing Your A$$ Goodbye 103.
6 posted on 08/21/2013 1:53:54 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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Note the exception for theatrical performances.

Priorities, after all.


7 posted on 08/21/2013 1:55:48 PM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Kip Russell

PANIC! FEAR! OMG!OMG!OMG!

9 posted on 08/21/2013 1:57:32 PM PDT by real saxophonist (All you poor, all you needy, all you're doin' is givin' to the greedy... Temptations, 'Power')
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PANIC! FEAR! OMG!OMG!OMG!

A reasonable response. No gun should be that shade of blue.

10 posted on 08/21/2013 2:00:06 PM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Kip Russell

Rip tides and undertow drag a lot of Californos out to sea.
But it’s scary talking about such things. So we won’t.
LACC Board of Trustees
School motto:
“Yeah. We’re a community college. So what?”


11 posted on 08/21/2013 2:01:43 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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Board of Trustees Vice President Scott Svonkin =
stupid, effin’, effeminate lyin’ girlie-man sack of crap.

God, I’m so glad I moved out of California 21 years ago.


12 posted on 08/21/2013 2:09:45 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a chain of convenience stores.)
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Related:
http://youtu.be/aC8lHjvvrtk


13 posted on 08/21/2013 2:13:23 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (IRS = Internal Revenge Service)
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Sue them, then use the money to buy pistols to give away to the students and watch the pinko commie fags heads explode.


14 posted on 08/21/2013 2:18:22 PM PDT by WilliamRobert (Ted Cruz is my senator)
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To: Kip Russell; real saxophonist
PANIC! FEAR! OMG!OMG!OMG!

Then this will really scare the begeezers out of them!

15 posted on 08/21/2013 2:19:53 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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“I believe that the NRA’s goal is to promote gun ownership, and that guns lead to deaths,” Svonkin explained. “So, not having the NRA teach classes, not having the NRA classes on our campuses, is a good thing.”

Haters hate. Some haters get paid to hate.

16 posted on 08/21/2013 2:23:31 PM PDT by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

LOL. Must be


17 posted on 08/21/2013 2:27:33 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Kip Russell

“I believe that the NRA’s goal is to promote gun ownership, and that guns lead to deaths,” Svonkin...

You sir are an IDIOT.


18 posted on 08/21/2013 2:32:39 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: Kartographer
Then this will really scare the begeezers out of them!

Echh. Why are you showing my eyes things my brain can't forget?

Just for that, I have to retaliate:

The seller says it's yours for the low, low price of $400...

19 posted on 08/21/2013 2:38:32 PM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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“You know, I’m not an expert in guns,” he said.

Yeah. We know.

20 posted on 08/21/2013 2:43:20 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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