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Two Pit Bulls Attack Riverside [California] Woman Out Walking Her Dog
CBSLA.com) ^ | August 12, 2013 2:18 PM

Posted on 08/12/2013 5:19:05 PM PDT by BenLurkin

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To: null and void

It’s too bad so many are so frightened due to the actions of a few bad apples, some here practically wetting themselves over pit bull bogies.
I know a lot of great bully dogs as well.


61 posted on 08/12/2013 7:20:31 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: BenLurkin
I don't like pit bulls. That said, I have come to suspect that most of these "pit bull" attacks are attacks by dogs. who are assigned pit bull status because the reporters and editors police define dogs that attack people or other dogs as "pit bull" with no regard to physiognomy or ancestry.
62 posted on 08/12/2013 7:50:42 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: BenLurkin

Another bad owner. Darn!


63 posted on 08/12/2013 7:52:51 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: Marcella
A pit bull isn’t a large dog, right?

Many of them are not at all small. Of course there are many larger dogs.

64 posted on 08/12/2013 7:55:18 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: Marcella

A real pit bull is a large dog. A reported pit bull is a different kind of animal, usually a dog, and can be any size.


65 posted on 08/12/2013 7:56:45 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: ransomnote

Cesar Milan is an exceptionally skilled dog trainer/psychologist. Unfortunately he is not available to train all Pit Bull owners.


66 posted on 08/12/2013 8:01:39 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: jy8z

YOUR Dogs do not constitute statistics. Statistically the sample size must be large enough to be relevant. 2 animals out of the population can sing in Mariache bands and it wouldn’t typify the breed. Smoke that.
It’s very hard for pit bull owners to understand this but the average person cares about others and does not consider ‘the job done’ as long as they personally are unaffected by public hazards. Some of us care what happens to others. We care that this breed is killing one person every 13 days in 2013, up from their prior run of one person every 20 days. That’s not including the human suffering and insurance costs of the far more numerous maimings.


67 posted on 08/12/2013 8:03:54 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: Marcella

I think Dachsunds have exceptionally beautiful heads.


68 posted on 08/12/2013 8:04:26 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: tumblindice

“It’s too bad so many are so frightened due to the actions of a few bad apples, some here practically wetting themselves over pit bull bogies.”

I don’t consider the fact that 6% of the dog population (pit bulls) are responsible for 65% of the human deaths from dog attacks “the actions of a few bad apples” but I am well aware that pit bull supporters are strangers to statistics and general knowledge.

” practically wetting themselves over pit bull bogies.”

By posting about the denials regarding a health hazards? How dare we speak of something you’d like swept under the rug. It’s only human lives at stake after all... We should so what you do and listlessly blame people instead.

THIS is the only action I’ve ever seen on the part of pit bull supporters to address the problem the breed represents. They had their chance to organize and lobby the government to enact rules in response to the problem long long long time ago. But they don’t want anyone to do anything about this tragedy. What they want is for us to stop talking about it or they’ll insult us. Well your game of insulting and blaming is 100% ineffectual and now breed specific laws and criminal courts will handle the issue that pit bulls pose to human health. Pit bull supporters had their chance and did nothing.


69 posted on 08/12/2013 8:10:18 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I’d like to pop my neighbors dacshound between the eyes. That little runt barks at the air and me too. Quite piercing to the ears from that stunted hot dog with legs.


70 posted on 08/12/2013 8:11:17 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: jy8z
In thirty+ years, not one of my pits has ever shown an inkling of aggression toward another animal or human.

You must be one of those good owners.

71 posted on 08/12/2013 8:12:38 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: luvbach1

Cesar Milan is an exceptionally skilled dog trainer/psychologist. Unfortunately he is not available to train all Pit Bull owners.
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Well, based on my research I don’t believe it is entirely the owner’s faults. Well cared for pit bulls kill their owners too.

Cesar Milan is part of the problem. Even if it were true that it a question of training the owner, he’s encouraging people to own these dogs even though he knows that he can’t train all the owners too. He knows many people will not train the pits to his specifications. Cesar has done nothing to address the problem. Why are pit bulls the only dog that must be trained EXACTLY RIGHT per his specifications lest they start killing people? Why are pit bull owners in such dire need of training that human lives depend upon it?

Shaking one’s head saying tsk tsk tsk is not a plan to reduce the deathtoll. It’s a plan to shift responsibility while the death toll climbs unabated.


72 posted on 08/12/2013 8:14:18 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote

I agree with your post #72.


73 posted on 08/12/2013 8:17:33 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: luvbach1

“I think Dachsunds have exceptionally beautiful heads.”

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - I think their heads are quite ugly including the one who climbed all over me on the couch. I was nice and petted him rather than drop kick him off the couch.


74 posted on 08/12/2013 8:21:53 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: ransomnote

THe pit bull and its blood relatives were bred to kill. The problem is genetic. So the fact that we often hear of pit bulls running loose attacking and killing people means they probably are out there breeding with other domestic dogs too. Cross breeds and pit bull relatives then carry the genetic deficits that make them excellent killers.

It’s not the owners, people. Every breed of dog from poodle to pit has been owned by good and bad people. Dogs bred to fight like pits and pit relatives are the ones pushing the death toll up.

While the normal pits are 40lb dogs, they have been bred larger and larger for dog fighting. Michael Vick was not the first man to own fighting pit bulls. It’s an industry. At the link is a YouTube video of a purebred pit bull that weighs 150lbs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqhEDR85BJM


75 posted on 08/12/2013 8:23:12 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote

You do realize many states have dangerous dog laws that specifically forbid labeling an entire breed dangerous, do you not? That’s to keep hysterical fanatics from labeling numerous breeds like Dobermans, German Shepherds, mastiffs and yes, the American Pit Bull Terrier and its related, but far more rare cousins like the Bull Terrier, the Staffordshire Bull Terrier and the Patterdale Terrier “dangerous” simply because of breed or mix thereof.


76 posted on 08/12/2013 8:24:02 PM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: tflabo

More proof, as if any is needed, that a LOT of dog owners should not have dogs. The majority IMO and personal experience.

Dachshunds are a hunting dog. They are not really suited to being family pets. Especially those of half ass owners that have no clue as to training and the commitment of time that any dog needs and deserves. Dachshunds are high energy dogs that are difficult to train. The average dog owner is scarcely capable of taking proper care of a stuffed toy dog.

A dog is like having a toddler than never grows up. And those are the ones that are actually suited to be pets. Most dog owners think that they are doing a good job if they feed the animal, see to its medical needs and let it out in the yard twice a day to do its business. And then think their neighbors are being petty for complaining about the 5 hours a day of barking.


77 posted on 08/12/2013 8:26:07 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: tumblindice

“...so many are so frightened due to the actions of a few bad apples,...”

Pit bulls are killing small children and adults - that does not fit into “a few bad apples” - death after death means they are deadly dogs. I would kill one if it came near me - before he attacked. If that pit bull is not on a leash, it is dead.


78 posted on 08/12/2013 8:26:49 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Darnright

You are aware that not all locations drank the Kool-Aid right? Many states are enacting breed specific laws. The criminal case I posted earlier about a man being charged with murder because his dogs killed someone

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/31/california-pit-bull-owner-charged-with-murder-in-fatal-mauling/

Breed specific laws reliably target pit bulls and their relatives. Let those who labor to protect the “good name” of the dog proven most likely to kill deal with reality as BSL and murder charges mount up.


79 posted on 08/12/2013 8:30:48 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote

I fully support holding owners whose dogs maim or kill responsible and if appropriate, liable for manslaughter. I also am active in promoting pet law in my state.


80 posted on 08/12/2013 8:37:41 PM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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