The Missing Shame in American Society

Clash Daily ^ | 8-11-13 | Stephanie Janiczek

[Starboard]

NOTHING is all that shocking anymore
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Right. What used to shock is now simply “amusing”. Another oddity in a world without any moral or ethical standards.

[Obadiah]

Indeed. How very sad that so many people are being schackled to sin and misery while being told that this is the way to “freedom” and happiness. Woe unto them who call evil good.

It is a burden of the heart to see so many people on the road to eternal ruin while they are deceived thinking all is well with them.

[rlmorel]

I have long thought that the banishment of “shame” in our culture has had (and continues to have) deep reaching, corrosive effects.

We have been hearing for decades now that being judgmental is a character flaw. This is an extension of liberal moral relativism, which is an offshoot of the Roussouian concept of being able to do whatever you like as long as it makes ou happy. The question is often framed as “Who are YOU to decide what culture/person/trait/habit/activity is good or not? Goodness is what I think it is...”

And everyone is supposed to go along with it.

[exPBRrat]

imo the MSM support of our serial adulterer Arkenführer gave us this parade of sh!tbird political trash that infests the country now.

What a world turned upside down this is when now it’s shameful to be a successful business man...

...and political trash like the NY state Governor Cuomo who, endorses abortion, enslaves a woman with a pre-nup or other type of personal services contract that denies alimony if she ‘talks’ and receives a sacrilegious holy communion is celebrated as a statesman.

[Obadiah]

The fact of the matter is that our Creator put within each one of us both an inborn knowledge of Him and an innate moral compass. Watch two kids in a sandbox. One takes another's truck. Both instinctively know that taking that truck (stealing in a sense) is wrong. This is that innate sense of right and wrong inbred in each of us.

The left, as they have sought throughout history, has detached many from God. Ironically, the left has used shame and ridicule to detach many from God. One detached from God, you are detached from immutable truth and then everything is relative, and the decent into darkness begins and is only a matter of time, but it is a surety.

For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.

[Resolute Conservative]

I watched one of my favorite movies last night, Spencer’s Mountain. A movie from the time when Hollyweird was unabashed about having characters show a strong faith in God and men believed in working hard and doing right. Even though just a movie it makes me long for the times when i was growing up.

[Durus]

Sure we still have shame. Take Larry Craig for example. He supposedly was trying to engage in some gay sex pick up in an airport using tapping feet code or something. True or not he resigned when it became public.

Compare this to Robert Menendez who not only was purportedly having sex with underage hookers but paying them with taxpayer money. This while he was on the Dominican Republic trip to participate in some real estate scam. It will be a cold day in hell before he resigns.

So it looks like only Republicans have shame. I can't help but think this is a weakness given our culture.

[Theodore R.]

There is no shame because a large portion of society has no sense of right or wrong, and the rest of us have resigned ourselves to accept their open reveling in evil as an unchangeable part of life.

As good as an Eric Hoffer observation; large portion means big majority for those in "Rio Linda", as Rush says.

[Theodore R.]

No, Craig decided to finish out his term, but the point you are making is valid. Few were more outraged than the “Idaho democracy” over Craig’s faux paux.

[Theodore R.]

Woe unto them who call evil good

At least two thirds of the American people; large majorities in polls wanted poor Terry Schiavo exterminated.

[Durus]

I had to look it up again. It appears he announced his intent to resign but then retracted it when he lawyered up and thought he could beat the charges, which he could have done apparently if he hadn't plead guilty. I guess I could have used a better example but like you said I think the point still holds true.

[Mouton]

Interestingly some of the federalist papers dealing with advise and consent issues mention shame as a motivator for people doing the right thing, not wanting to be ostracized for example. When I used to give ethics presentations to new employees, the line I used to use when a question concerning a right or wrong action was: Just ask yourself what your mother would say if she found out. Today I would be laughed off the dais because there simply is no shame. “Not my child or he is a good boy or he just is misunderstood” would be the answers”.

95% of the prime time stuff on the TV is immoral IMO. We used to call it bathroom humor but today it is main stream comedy. The purveyors of it have no shame because it sells. When there are no standards of decency, there is no real society IMO.

[trebb]

The leftist agenda could not come to full fruition until the stigma of shame for shameful behavior was erased. They started with the minorities and it bled over to society in general.

[slipper]

No conscience, seared conscience; no sense of right or wrong. Lying right to a person’s face with no sense of guilt. No shame or embarrassment, no high standards or respect.
No one is shocked anymore by deviant behavior or language.

We have turned a blind eye for so long, there is no going back.

[elcid1970]

When is the last time anyone saw a woman blush?

[Lou L]

And don't forget, the absolute worst thing we conservatives can do, according to liberals, is JUDGE someone or something as shameful, or perverse, or lewd, or inappropriate, or sinful, or disgusting, or anti-American, or lazy, or immoral, or...

This only contributes to the downward slide.

[I want the USA back]

Anyone who ever has had the misfortune to have a TV on during the work day knows there is no shame anymore.

[equaviator]

“Shame went out of our society after Woodstock.”

I was going on 11 when that happened. I turned 21 when the Disco scene was peaking. I think that since then though, a great many people have further developed an emotional association between shame and feelings of low self-esteem and that’s why they’re driven to feel no shame. They just don’t get it that it’s human nature to feel good about being good and doing good things with their lives and for others.

[OKSooner]

Ping...

[equaviator]

"I would add that they are fundamentally immature and insecure. Like children, they want what they want without regard to any consequences."

There is evidence (1970's album art, etc.) that they were influenced to see themselves as being so innocent.