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Why shotshells are still available (and 22 ammo isn't)

Posted on 07/19/2013 1:36:37 PM PDT by varmintman

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To: Bryanw92
I have a 100 yd bolt-action tack-driver in .22LR. I have a .22 rifle with multiple hi-cap mags. I have a .22LR revolver. I have a very accurate .22LR semi-auto pistol. And I have a pocket-sized .22LR semi-auto that I can carry anywhere.

It looks like the .22LR ammo shortage is all your fault!

21 posted on 07/19/2013 2:07:21 PM PDT by tpmintx (Gun free zones are hunting preserves for unarmed people.)
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To: tpmintx

>>It looks like the .22LR ammo shortage is all your fault!

I wish it was! I haven’t fired any of them since the panic buying began in November.


22 posted on 07/19/2013 2:08:47 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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Oh yeah? Care to share where I can get Remington Gun Club target loads in quantity? I’ve had a hell of a time finding any cases of Gun CLubs.


23 posted on 07/19/2013 2:09:09 PM PDT by stranger and pilgrim
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To: stranger and pilgrim; All

The machines that produce .22 ammunition cannot be used to produce centerfire cartridges or shotgun ammunition, or vice versa.

As mentioned, .22 is the most versatile load on the planet, and nearly everyone has a .22.

Demand has outstripped supply. No conspiracy needed. It has not happened for hunting loads for shotguns.... yet.


24 posted on 07/19/2013 2:13:18 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: chris37

I was looking for my granddad’s, now mine, Ithica double 20ga circa 1930 in those pictures but did not see it...oh I know, it is in my safe!


25 posted on 07/19/2013 2:13:44 PM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: rsobin
100 people in 50 states each purchasing 5 bricks a day

I checked your math - it did not seem realistic. However it works out.

1 Brick (all they will let me buy) x 500 people x 50 states (not 57) x 365 days = 4.5 Billion rounds per year. Wow.

26 posted on 07/19/2013 2:13:59 PM PDT by tpmintx (Gun free zones are hunting preserves for unarmed people.)
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To: Nervous Tick
And defense-wise, they’re not double ought buck, but I sure wouldn’t want my center mass to be on the receiving end of a 12ga target load fired from close range.

Turn those target loads into nearly the equivalent of a slug.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3M46XVfVOU

27 posted on 07/19/2013 2:19:25 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: stranger and pilgrim

>> Remington Gun Club target loads in quantity?

Oh, you’re *picky*.

I buy whatever they have on the shelf at Wally World. I think the last case was Federal.

The coons and armadillos don’t seem to know the difference.


28 posted on 07/19/2013 2:19:33 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: chris37
Those shotguns images are just unbelievable!

The url:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Over-Under-Shotguns/BI.aspx?Sort=5&PageIndex=13

29 posted on 07/19/2013 2:23:37 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: IYAS9YAS

VERY COOL!!!

I’m going to give that a try!

Thx


30 posted on 07/19/2013 2:24:35 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Nervous Tick

You’re more than welcome. Those guys are a hoot, and have several informative videos. I think they even have one using wax to make pellet slugs. They open the end of the shell, dump the pellets in to a pan with wax in it. Then when the wax is liquid, they scoop the wax/pellet mix back into the shell, let it cool and shrink, then top with a little more wax.


31 posted on 07/19/2013 2:27:22 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: varmintman

>> The Xtrema 2 can serve any purpose there is for a shotgun.

What’s its capacity? (2 3/4)

I could look it up but I’m lazy, plus I see you *enjoy* talking about it. :-)


32 posted on 07/19/2013 2:29:13 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

>> Those guys are a hoot, and have several informative videos.

Yeah, very interesting and good filming too, without being “over-produced”.

I think these are the same guys that set out to prove the theoretical “killing power” of .22LR even at extreme ranges (like 400 yards). THAT was an interesting expose.


33 posted on 07/19/2013 2:31:27 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: varmintman

Bee Yoo Tee Full!!!!


34 posted on 07/19/2013 2:42:10 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: x1stcav

LOL

Murderer ...


35 posted on 07/19/2013 2:43:33 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: varmintman
I think that, if you believe the ammo shortage is due to the govt. and not panic-buying by consumers (I don't), it is more likely due to the fact that most shotgun ammo is short-range and the libs just want to have all the long-range rifle advantages.

Question: is the long-range sabot/slug shotgun ammo in short supply?

36 posted on 07/19/2013 2:46:48 PM PDT by expat2
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To: varmintman

Here’s some shotgun porn for you. My Ithaca NID 16 gauge Grade 5E. Less than 30 made.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2947889/posts


37 posted on 07/19/2013 2:50:58 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: ChildOfThe60s
I don’t go to the range and shoot 250 rounds with my shotgun on a routine basis (ouch).

The problem is that many folks grab the cheapest shotshells they can find, and they are usually field loads. Find some Winchester Super Target 1 ounce loads at 1180 feet per second. They'll break anything on the clays field and won't beat you up.

Or shoot 20 gauge target loads, I do and am competitive at the A class level in sporting.

38 posted on 07/19/2013 2:53:46 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Dead Corpse

You need the 8 round A5 that FN made for the Rhodesian Police back in the day.


39 posted on 07/19/2013 2:54:56 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: IYAS9YAS

good stuff!!


40 posted on 07/19/2013 2:55:30 PM PDT by varmintman
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