I realize there is not much context here. But, I am interested in FR comments on how thay would react if they had been present.
Reminds me of the judge in MY COUSIN VINNY.
“Don’t talk to me sittin’ in that chair!”
“He told me to sit here.”
I think you'd get a whole different set of reactions had you posted this in the Religion Forum.
Friend of mine in college played piano at one of the local black churches on Sunday mornings.
Going to sleep in that church was brutal. Just brutal. And black churches seldom have sermons that are over in 45m to an hour. Sometimes they go on for a couple hours or more.
This preacher was tame in comparison.
I’d have torn the pastor a new butthole, even if I wasn’t the one he was yelling at.
I found myself getting veeeerrrry sleepy.
NO one has a right to publically embarass another .. no matter the day nor reason.
I don’t think his sermon would be bet met with approval in Heaven IMHo.
If he were truly saying those things out of love I think he would have delivered them with just a bit less hostility. I think his ego and anger made him jump tracks pretty early on and he began berating his congregation a little too harshly. Just my opinion.
I think that that preacher’s methods of persuasion need some work.
A real shepherd would have had a conversation with the young man after the service...
God wants to set his people free from the traditions of man that Jesus constantly talked about (Mark Chapter 7) and Paul warned about ("another gospel" other than the gospel of the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ) (Galatians Chapter 1).
Shades of “Flaker Fleger”!
Did not a young kid fall asleep when the Apostle Paul was preaching? Acts 20:8-10 I’d think this preacher would be flattered. And Paul did not rant, but served the needs of the fallen.
Way too much “ I .... me ... I .... me .... submit to me ... I .... me .... “ for me. It’s not about him.
But that’s just me.
Well, I don’t think he’s doing what The Book says to do in such situations:
Matthew 18:15-17
King James Version (KJV)
15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
Mt 18
Maybe God was speaking to the parishioner in his dreams, and giving him a more accurate message.
No, this pastor definitely needs to get down on his knees and pray for better enlightenment.
I’m reminded of the story of a preacher who noted that an old fellow in the back of the congregation had nodded off during the sermon. At an appropriate place in his remarks, the pastor asked, “Will all those who want to go to Heaven, please stand up.” The congregation quickly rose to their feet, except the old man in the back who dozed peacefully. The congregation was told to sit.
The preacher then asked, “Will all those who want to go to Hell PLEASE STAND UP!” The startled old gentleman quickly rose to his feet, looked around and saw everyone seated. He looked at the pastor and replied, “I don’t know what you and I are voting on, reverend, but looks like we’re the only ones for it!”
The congregation may not walk out this week but they won’t be back next week unless the church elders send this pompous ass packing..........
A fire and brimstone preacher.
Why would anyone go to church and not expect a man of God to set them straight?
Sometimes, we need to be told when we are wrong, when we are slipping, when we fall short of tje grace of the Lord.
Who better to do it? Your mommy and daddy? The neighbor? The cops? The government?
Those of us honest with ourselves know in our hearts we are sinners and many times very much estranged from our Creator.
The preacher spoke what likely needed to be said.
The arrogant, hypocritical and smugly selfrighteous will bitch and moan and maybe leave.
Their loss. They need a shepherd. And if the shepherd must smack his flock from time to time, he is only implementing the spare the rod spoil the child proverb.