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To: Secret Agent Man
both are good. that’s the problem. if traditional marriage is good, defending it is defending good, which is also good.

No; it's not good if, in defending marriage, the government steps outside of its Constitutional limits. This is almost the exact same thing that happened with the War on Drugs and the 4th Amendment -- because "drugs are bad" & "drug dealers are bad" we allowed the police to violate the 4th so much that the 4th amendment is now virtually gone. (As evidenced in the NSA revelations, and the TSA's general operations.)

Indeed, CS Lewis commented on this mentality:

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
— C. S. Lewis

Remember what was said: A government powerful enough to give you anything you want can take away everything you have.

4 posted on 07/03/2013 7:07:26 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
Now, we're having a debate on fire.

Here we have Tonto, Tarzan and Frankenstein to weigh in.

Tonto: "Fire good."

Tarzan?

Tarzan: "I think that fire good, too."

OK, now turning to Frankenstein, what do YOU think of fire?

Frankenstein: "Fire Bad! Fire Bad!"

Frankenstein goes crazy and breaks through the back wall of set.

6 posted on 07/03/2013 7:29:31 PM PDT by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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