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To: Albion Wilde
"OK, FRiend, what is your opinion of this case — professional police work or intimidating overkill? (Imagine this was your wife or daughter...)"

Yes, let me imagine one of my three daughters smoking weed in the car while driving with their aunt (my sister?). Hmmm. Then, let me imagine them speeding down the road, high as a kite. Hmmmm. Then let me imagine that they get stopped for speeding and the stench of Mary Jane comes out of the window when they are confronted by the trooper. Hmmmmm. Then let me imagine that the trooper not only smells dope, but sees a smoked blunt on the floor. Hmmmmmm. Then, when the trooper asks them to step out of the car, the zipper of their shorts is open. Hmmmmmmmm. Now let me imagine that the trooper calls a woman officer to check them over for hidden drugs and reaches into their lady-areas. Hmmmmmmmmm.

Well, if this really happened, then I would tell them DON'T DO DRUGS, KNUCKLEHEADS!!!!! This is what criminals get. And, the time in jail is going to be a lot worse, with a lot deeper cavity searches than this. Stay out of trouble. The reason this would be imaginary is that I made it clear to my girls that the cops would be a lot kinder than I would, if they did this. Now they tell me this was very good for them.

The permissive, self-absorbed, antinomian mentality of the world right now engenders this kind of brash law-breaking you see in these women. There is no fear before their eyes. The "pain" they feel is all in their pride. In case no one noticed, these women are criminals. Weed is illegal. Sorry, once again, I am on the side of the troopers.

What say you?

51 posted on 07/03/2013 3:11:28 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88
Well, if this really happened, then I would tell them DON'T DO DRUGS, KNUCKLEHEADS!!!!! This is what criminals get.

You are nuts. You ever heard of the 4th Amendment? If the cop found part of a joint in the car, then arrest the women for possession and take them to jail. But body cavity search on the side of the road? Are you out of your damn mind? I suppose the idea of living in a police state gives you the tingles, but for those of us who still believe in the American way, this type of behavior by law enforcement is beyond disgusting - it's criminal. And for a damn joint. It serves no real useful purpose but intimidation and oppression. Do you have any idea what the Founders, and ALL those who lived in those days, would have done to an officer of the law who stuck his finger up their woman's vagina to check for ANYTHING?

I tell you what. The next time you go through a DUI checkpoint and the cop thinks you might have been drinking because he sees a bottlecap lying on the floor, I hope he slaps on a glove and jams his fist up your ass to check if there is a bottle of beer up there.
65 posted on 07/03/2013 4:31:32 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Dutchboy88
This is what criminals get.

They aren't criminals until they are convicted.

While the officer may have felt there was probable cause for a search, searching portions of their anatomy the suspects would be arrested for exposing in public, in public is over the top.

While I am aware that the officer regards the glove as being for her protection, and not the suspects', the possibility of transferring STDs exists, the glove(s) should have been replaced before the second search.

79 posted on 07/03/2013 6:24:22 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Dutchboy88
Even drug abusing women should never be subjected to a body cavity search on the side of the road. Just NEVER. In view that they were non-violent, and police found only the stub of a reefer and not even a baggie, there was little to no justification for a body cavity search even if they were taken to the police station. And lastly, there is NEVER, NEVER, NEVER any justification WHATSOEVER for using the same glove on both women. Just no. I don't care if they were murderers.

This country was founded on the principle of rule of law, and that a suspect is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. The police are not judges nor executioners. They are, and should remain, at least 50%, if not 90%, community relations professionals who are armed for the general welfare when dealing with hard criminals. Sadly, with the decline of family in this country, they are often cast in the role of Rent-A-Dad. But just like your own Dad, self-discipline is best learned by example. Anger, spiteful punishment without due process, retaliation and vengeance are too costly to the taxpayer and the general welfare.

82 posted on 07/03/2013 7:47:11 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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