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Are freeloaders helpful or hurtful to open source communities?
OpenSource.com ^ | 25 June 2013 | Stephen R. Walli

Posted on 06/26/2013 10:01:41 AM PDT by ShadowAce

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1 posted on 06/26/2013 10:01:41 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Salo; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; amigatec; Still Thinking; ...

2 posted on 06/26/2013 10:02:03 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
virtual associations as "communities"

Someday it will be the definition of "citizenship."

you read it here first.

3 posted on 06/26/2013 10:05:38 AM PDT by schm0e ("we are in the midst of a coup.")
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To: ShadowAce

Open source is communism in an application. I can count on one hand the open source projects that are worth anything, the rest are pos. I vehemently oppose any open source stuff embedded into our applications.


4 posted on 06/26/2013 10:19:50 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: ShadowAce

The idea of open source was originally as a thumb of the nose at software makers like Microsoft who don’t release their source code. It made the community responsible for the content of the distributions.

If someone takes OSS, modifies it to their needs, and makes money off of it, they don’t owe the originators of that OSS any money. AS a matter of fact, that’s explicit in the GNU license agreement.

The OSS people are not anti-capitalist, they’re pro-responsibility. I trust open source more that I do MS or Apple.

The people responsible for maintaining and monitoring the code are the original whistleblowers if someone tries to deploy a distro with malicious code.


5 posted on 06/26/2013 10:20:31 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Then why are you on the internet? Why are you on FR?


6 posted on 06/26/2013 10:21:41 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: rarestia
The idea of open source was originally as a thumb of the nose at software makers like Microsoft who don’t release their source code.

Incorrect. FOSS was the original code profile. MS came along and started selling their code--much to the chagrin of the rest of the developer community.

7 posted on 06/26/2013 10:22:57 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Resolute Conservative
FreeRepublic runs on open source software.

/johnny

8 posted on 06/26/2013 10:23:11 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Resolute Conservative

OK I wouldn’t go that far, there are many good open-source projects...

But the open source FANATICS think all software should be free for the masses!!

Most of these freaks I have met work on their pet open-source project while getting paid by someone else to do other things. We had one programmer who always spent half his day workign on an ‘esperonto’ translator...

When you ask them who will feed their children if they were required to program for free- how do they make money? they answer “TECH SUPPORT”!!!

I guess tech support for the crapware they write should NOT be “free for the masses”


9 posted on 06/26/2013 10:24:28 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: ShadowAce

He’s also having trouble finding coders. Maybe these are connected?


10 posted on 06/26/2013 10:25:54 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: ShadowAce

The correct term for them is “users”. Thinking that everybody using your product should “contribute” to it’s development in someway is one of the things that tells the laymen that make up the majority of your target audience they aren’t actually in your target audience.


11 posted on 06/26/2013 10:27:00 AM PDT by discostu (Go do the voodoo that you do so well.)
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To: JRandomFreeper; John Robinson
FreeRepublic runs on open source software.

Does it?

I see this at the bottom of the page:

FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson

12 posted on 06/26/2013 10:44:54 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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So in the end, it's all about freeloaders, but from the perspective that you want as many as possible. That means you're "doing it right" in developing a broad base of users by making their experience easy, making it easy for them to contribute, and ultimately to create an ecosystem that continues to sustain itself. Freeloaders are essential to the growth and success of every FOSS project.

One of the things I see missing is the potential of hundreds of thousands of people with the potential, due to experience and ability to become contributors, but somewhat removed from the "computer science" field.

Aside from formal colleges and paid schools, in addition to interest, what is missing is some sort of on line beginners, intermediate and advanced training, with real world problems to solve as part of the process.
I know I am interested, as well as many others.

Prior knowledge of astronomy, mathematics and engineering can't hurt. I know the pool is out here. For these people, sharing is never a problem.

13 posted on 06/26/2013 10:47:06 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: ShadowAce

FR is not an application that ties into our business model. I do not piggy back of FR for any technological ideas. I come here to listen and sometimes speak.


14 posted on 06/26/2013 10:47:19 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: ShadowAce

That wasn’t my understanding, but I am admittedly ignorant of the open source roots. I took my cues from popular collegiate sympathy for open source. I’m in my early 30s, so I came into Linux prior to its popularity.

Would you agree, however, that the open source community has grown into an organic community of self-checking programmers and hackers (non-malicious incarnation of hacker in this case)?


15 posted on 06/26/2013 10:47:21 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: null and void
That's the FR software itself. It runs on a Linux platform, using open source web software and open source database. That's my understanding anyway.

/johnny

16 posted on 06/26/2013 10:48:17 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ShadowAce

Plus I don’t feed my family on the internet/FR.


17 posted on 06/26/2013 10:49:02 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative
I bet you use DNS, TCP/IP, browsers, etc for your application to run over a network.

The application was perhaps written in c/c++ as well--compilers are open source.

If your application is internet-aware or -capable, then it relies heavily on open source software.

Do you use putty for any connections? FOSS.

SSH? FOSS.

My point is that you can't get away from it. It's all around, and you rely on it quite a bit more than you may know.

18 posted on 06/26/2013 10:54:26 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Ah! That makes sense.


19 posted on 06/26/2013 10:57:55 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: ShadowAce

It is all C# with some T-SQL. The MS C++ we have left is quickly being gutted. I said I will not embed any open source into our app. I am firmly aware of how TCP/Ip and other protocols work I have been doing this for over 25 years and started before the internet craze.

The only browsers we support are IE and Firefox (yes I know) but they are entered externally. We do not use any of that code internally.

No putty.

Yes and most of the problems we do have is the crap we have to talk to.


20 posted on 06/26/2013 11:04:17 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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