Posted on 06/19/2013 8:33:49 AM PDT by BenLurkin
Hunch? That’s a straight up conclusion, my FRiend. Someone has figured out how to capitalize on this EMP nonsense and has the ear of a congress critters.
Fortunately, based on past performance we can conclude that this equipment will not only not work as designed, may in fact cause fires (Karmas burning in newark parking lot were spectacular addition to Sandy damage!) and other unforseen injuries and damages.
Joy. Bliss.
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Check this on Wikipedia.
Read this book: One Second After. Chilling.
This is a war that will be over, literally, in one second. And we'll be the losers.
I dunno about you, but I have that pained, constipated look on my face as I mouth the words:
“Aw Jeez... not this *&^^ again!”
I’m starting to think of running for Congress, just so I can be the only engineer in the House.
When legislation like this would come up, I’d have a pre-planned minute speech to give:
“All of you with liberal arts degrees... shut the *&*&^ up. Sit down. You’re too stupid to do anything constructive about this issue, or even understand this issue. Please, in the name of all that does not suck, shut up.”
How do you think that would look on C-SPAN?
This is long overdue, and I hope it gets some legs and passes. But I’m afraid that too many legislators don’t take this issue seriously, just like they don’t take any security issue seriously until something horrible happens.
This bill would help strengthen the grid in the same way Obamacare improved our health care.
Don't encourage politicians to make technology decision about which they don't understand. All it will do is cost money, make no improvements and likely cause more problems.
All significant High-Voltage Transmission Lines, High Voltage Transformers and associate Substation ALREADY have surge suppressors on them.
Can we please stop wasting $$$ on pointless efforts.
Only a high yield nuclear warhead detonated high in the atmosphere would generate a large enough EMP to do sizeable damage.
If that happened, we are in WWIII so we might as well save the 1T$ it would cost to upgrade.
Neither does the Federal or local governments know the details either. Why do you want them making the decisions?
“assist local governments in hardening the electric grid. “
“. An EMP attack or powerful solar flare could send this country back to the 18th century for more than a decade,”
Didn’t know local government owned the electrical grid. Are you claiming we should turn communist and “nationalize” power distribution? Are you a communist?
Are you an electrical engineer? Do you even have a clue what you are talking about? Do you get your information from other idiots on other web sites that simply repeat such nonsense often enough that you all know believe it? Do you also believe in the tooth fairy, Santa Claus, and global warming? How about that “ozone hole” everyone claimed we just had to ban fluorocarbons or else we were all going to die yet that ozone hole is still there even after banning man-made ozone killers?
I just want my lightbulbs back that were stolen from me by a republican president, senate and house!
“are you? “
Yes, that’s why I am NOT concerned about the grid. I am also an expert in EMP effects and am not concerned there, either. I know you internet experts all believe what you tell each other but your knowledge of such things is laughable to point of being childish and believing in global warming or the Easter Bunny. In fact, the basis of belief in EMP is identical to the beliefs in global warming: Everyone says it so it must be true. “Experts” are quoted. “Facts” are passed around. And we are all going to die if we don’t address the “issue”.
While a few are this way, most are not.
so - yes - they do know the details - they are the ones running the systems.
No. Even in a municipal utility, the elected officials, the ones that would decide the content of the regulations and make them law, do NOT know the details.
Can you name a single elected official you have voted for in the past that does know this level of detail?
This is one thing that government actually does pretty well.
Can you give me an example where they have done this well in the past.
people like you who obviously don't know anything about it?
I'm an Electrical Engineer, specialized in power. I started my career working in electric utilities but was bored to death. I moved to design electrical power systems, mostly for the oil/gas/petrochem industry. I've helped specify, purchase, design, construct and start up electrical high voltage transmission lines, switchyards, transformers relays. I've designed Protective Device Coordination Systems, provided the PE stamped calculations and programmed in the set points. I'm currently involved in two major expansions of 138kV Substations. All of those past and current project already have Surge Suppressors.
I don't know your expertise and won't claim I do. But be sure to call you congressman and urge them to make these laws and spend our tax dollars, because you are sure it will help.
I just wanted to give you a heads up.
The threat of EMP seems real enough to me. As I believe in a strong military and national defense, I agree that we should have federal standards that require hardening our infrastructure against EMP threats. We cannot rely on free markets to accomplish this automagically. No company wants to take on this cost when their competitors do not because it will put them at a competitive disadvantage because costs have to be passed on to the consumer. So there is no profit advantage for prepping the grid for doomsday. However, there is an interest in the future of our nation.
Not True.
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