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'Winter' - maybe even snow - to return for Memorial Day weekend
NBC News ^ | May 24,2013 | Ian Johnston

Posted on 05/24/2013 4:07:13 PM PDT by Biggirl

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To: Biggirl; Kirkwood
Let’s just say Mother Nature is a little bit confused.

Maybe she's going through menopause.

61 posted on 05/25/2013 8:11:04 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: fatnotlazy

I plant them anyway and cover them if I need to.

Just like any other crop.


62 posted on 05/26/2013 12:43:07 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Biggirl

I come from Alabama with my banjo on my knee,
I’m going to Louisiana, my true love for to see.
It rained all night the day I left, the weather it was dry
The sun so hot I froze to death, Susanna, don’t you cry.


63 posted on 05/26/2013 12:44:44 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: mware

That made me smile... Thought of my Memere sharing similar stories back in her childhood... Connecticut .... 1910 to 1917. She would have opted not to swim.


64 posted on 05/26/2013 12:59:30 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: metmom

; )


65 posted on 05/26/2013 1:00:46 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Maybe she just doesn’t want to give any warmth to the Climate Liars.


66 posted on 05/26/2013 1:02:29 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: central_va; The Great RJ
RJ, the 32 out of 33 CO2 molecules in the atmosphere being natural is a red herring. The carbon cycle is predominately natural, but nature is now a sink, not a source of CO2. What that means is natural CO2 is being cycled at a high rate compared to manmade production, about 100 to 1, but the manmade production is higher than the natural uptake year over year.

To put it more simply, the natural rise in CO2 from the natural warming of the oceans by 1C or so would have resulted in 5-10 ppm rise of CO2 in the atmosphere from outgassing Instead we we have seen 110 or 120 ppm rise so far.

central_va, when you say "some meteorologists expect that the average temperature of the earth will increase by about 2.5 degrees Celsius. This doesn't sound like much, but it could be enough to cause glaciers to melt, which would cause coastal flooding." you are leaving out a lot of information.

The phrase "some meteorologists" is true enough, but it's a small number. The people who mainly push catastrophic warming are not meteorologists but climate modelers who know very little about weather. It's mostly not in the models. For example the strong storms that are a claimed result of manmade "climate change" are a negative feedback. Therefore the 1C or so warming from CO2 itself would be diminished by weather feedback. But the models don't predict stronger storms (on average) which is about the only way your 2-3C claim can come true.

More importantly the temperature rise in the last 10-20 years is more like 0.05C per decade so there is almost no chance of the a 2C (or more) rise in 100 years as is claimed by alarmists. Even more importantly, as most meteorologists know, the weather drives the global climate. Thus water vapor cannot properly be viewed as a feedback but as the controller of equilibrium temperature. Very briefly, if water vapor is spread out evenly there will be more warming. If water vapor in bunched up, then there will be cooling. All the "extreme" weather being claimed as manmade is actually a result of natural patterns. For example droughts start and stop naturally. The high temperatures in the drought may be a teeny bit higher thanks to added CO2, but that doesn't affect the global temperature more than trivially. As another example, heavier rains are another "extreme" weather claim. but that just increases the water cycle and negative feedback.

67 posted on 05/26/2013 4:05:10 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Biggirl

It must be man’s fault. Too warm, CO2 from fossil fuels. Too cold, particulates blocking the sunlight. Man is always to blame and we need more govt grants for research, and more laws to control people and industry.


68 posted on 05/26/2013 5:02:17 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: cripplecreek
We usually don't put a garden in until May 15th because of the threat of frost.

After that it is usually safe.

Not this year.

69 posted on 05/26/2013 5:09:08 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Join AAAA : Americans Against Acronym Abuse)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik
"If this continues, some meteorologists expect that the average temperature of the earth will increase by about 2.5 degrees Celsius."

Other meteorologists disagree.

"But we don't listen to them, do we, George?"


70 posted on 05/26/2013 5:10:10 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
I had 37 degrees again this morning.

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71 posted on 05/26/2013 5:11:22 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: dragnet2; Biggirl

The cause is pretty straight forward .....

The adibatic atmospheric turbulence resulting from jet stream boundary layer friction of increased green house gases results in temporary local temperature reductions.

It’s just that simple


72 posted on 05/26/2013 5:28:16 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....Obama Denies Role in Government)
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To: Biggirl

73 posted on 05/26/2013 5:30:10 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: cripplecreek

34 degrees with mixed rain and snow overnight in Soviet Red Hampshire...


74 posted on 05/26/2013 5:59:26 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Biggirl
Saturday morning:


75 posted on 05/26/2013 11:03:41 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Windflier

I am interested in the global cooling argument. There does seem some evidence for it. And, on the anecdotal level, it is a very cold winter, already, in the southern hemisphere, and the New Zealand snow season has started early.


76 posted on 05/26/2013 5:18:17 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil
I am interested in the global cooling argument. There does seem some evidence for it.

Just follow the climate related threads on FR, and you'll soon see posts with charts and solid evidence for a decades long cooling trend coming.

77 posted on 05/26/2013 8:21:16 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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