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To: daniel1212
Some ring strong: of course the end of slavery, perhaps the worst disgrace in the nation's history.

Very poorly written. The end of slavery was not a disgrace, it was a triumph.

It is also odd to assign disgrace for the temporary continuation of a universal practice, rather than kudos for the nation (or part of it) being willing to pay the enormous price to end it.

7 posted on 04/27/2013 4:09:13 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Well stated.

“perhaps the worst disgrace in the nation’s history.”

I too took issue with that particular statement, as well as a couple of others:

1. As the name of their party suggests, these activists believed that the republic’s interests should take precedence over the states’

2. Before the Civil War, the concept of liberty and justice for all meant little unless you were white and male.

Both of the above statements, show a bit of bias all neatly wrapped in the history package, much of which might sound good but is revionist to a degree.


9 posted on 04/27/2013 4:33:19 AM PDT by wita
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To: Sherman Logan

And how did it change my life when I didn’t have a life in the 1860s?


18 posted on 04/27/2013 5:16:18 AM PDT by Gefreiter
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To: Sherman Logan
I am sure they meant slavery was a disgrace, but was poorly written, while slavery in the South was not that of the regulated Biblical form , which ameliorated an established institution. And the outworking of its Christian ethos supported and enabled it to be dispensed with when spiritual and political conditions enabled.

Christianity is an overcoming faith, one that places the priority on having victorious faith despite circumstances, while as Paul advised, "Art thou called being a servant? care not for it: but if thou mayest be made free, use it rather." (1 Corinthians 7:21) And which liberty he supported in requiring an escaped and converted slaves to be received back as a brother, even as Paul himself. (Philemon)

Note that under the law there was no national debt, and no interest for citizens, with land being given to all and returned after 50 years in case they may have sold it.

Thieves worked to pay for what they stole, and Israelites who went into debt could sell themselves into servitude, but were offered freedom after 6 years, with generous "severance pay." Non Israelites could even own Israelis servants, and sell their own kin into slavery to Israelites, but which was for life and them and for offspring (in a superior nation), unless the owner knocked out a tooth, or likely something similar, while escaped slaves were not to be returned.

Now how would such things as the Madoff investment scandal fit here?

31 posted on 04/27/2013 5:57:25 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Sherman Logan
Uhhh. slavery did not end.

It still exists.

It is no longer about race, we now have Universal Slavery. Slavery to the Socialist State.

We still have Free States (relatively) and we still have Slave States (definitely) Example NY, MA, MD, NJ

33 posted on 04/27/2013 6:11:19 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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