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To: EternalVigilance; LucyT
"They’ve virtually never heard of exigent circumstances, which is the legal criteria.

http://definitions.uslegal.com/e/exigent-circumstances/"

From the link you provided:

Exigent circumstances are said to exist when

(1) a person's life or safety is threatened

(2) a suspect's escape is imminent, or

(3) evidence is about to be removed or destroyed.

I'm wondering:

1) What made the police believe that each and every person in those houses life or safety was threatened? Did they hear loud noise/cries for help/screaming in each and every house? Did they here gunshot or explosions in each and every case? Did they know for sure the suspect was in that particular area? Did they see him enter one of the houses...or all of them at some point? What made them think each person, in their home, was in imminent danger?

2) The suspects escape wasn't imminent. He had already escaped. They had no idea where he was.

3) What made them think evidence was about to be removed or destroyed? Referring back to #1, did they have reason to believe the residence of each house was about to destroy evidence? Did they see the subject, in each of the houses, in a manner that lead them to believe evidence was about to be removed/destroyed in each case?

I'm not so sure "Exigent" circumstances were in play in each of those cases.

Some of the people were searched. Why? Why did the police need to search these people as they came out of their homes? What made them believe these people themselves where suspects coming out of their homes?

To me, this looks like clear 4th Amendment violation, people were forcibly removed from their homes and searched.

This video is a must see. The people of this particular house were orderd out. Why? Did they have reason to believe the suspect was in that house? Based on what? Watch how each person who is exiting the house is searched. Why? Furthermore, how long were those people detained? Where did they take them? Why were others allowed to stay in their houses (i.e. the person taking this video)

house search in watertown, ma

Clearly nothing imminant was going on here as the police calmly and quitely walked away, and the people who were forced out of their house and searched can be seen walking back near the end of the video as other people walk outside their homes to look around.

They even landed a (at least one) military chopper in the area. Why?

If the government is going to try to claim it was essentially a war zone (which is probably the only thing that would make sense for these actions), then the bomber in custody needs to be held as an enemy combatant and they need to level with us about the alledged multi-person terror cell that's probably involved.

This was a terrible situation made worse.

401 posted on 04/23/2013 12:52:28 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

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403 posted on 04/23/2013 2:56:05 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (RINOism to Libertarianism: Out of the frying pan and into the fire.)
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To: rxsid

Good post...You won’t get any answers.

Just deception and evasion.


408 posted on 04/23/2013 4:21:36 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: rxsid
If the government is going to try to claim it was essentially a war zone (which is probably the only thing that would make sense for these actions), then the bomber in custody needs to be held as an enemy combatant and they need to level with us about the alledged multi-person terror cell that's probably involved.

BUMP! BUMP! BUMP! Don't move to MA, clearly you are too clever, too informed for them to contain.

And The Marlboro Man showed the PD how it's done. Wonder if they will find violations on the Patriot's property for shaming them while they were being frantic and 'Nazi' like.

411 posted on 04/23/2013 4:35:56 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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