Skip to comments.At 14, China’s Tianlang Guan stuns veterans with a 73 in first round of Augusta Masters
Posted on 04/12/2013 9:25:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
To put this performance into perspective, consider that Guan finished his first career Masters round tied with five major champions and two strokes ahead of the defending champion, Bubba Watson.
He should have been a nervous wreck, a golfing shambles. The sheer length of Augusta National was supposed to overwhelm Tianlang Guan, remind him that he is 14 years old, an eighth grader, a thin reed in a forest of pines.
Instead, Guan rolled a 20-foot, pin-high putt into the cup on the 18th hole for a final birdie, giving him an impressive 1-over 73 in the first round Thursday. Altogether, he recorded four birdies and five bogeys on the round.
Like a dream come true, Guan said. To put this performance into perspective, consider that Guan finished his first career Masters round tied with five major champions and two strokes ahead of the defending champion, Bubba Watson.
His mom had packed him a snack in the morning and then off he went, the youngest Masters competitor in history. He impressed a lot of people, although Guan appeared least surprised of all by his own success. When asked about his career goals, Guan was not particularly modest.
Hopefully I can win the four majors in one year, he said.
Ben Crenshaw, one of his two playing partners on Thursday, did not disagree. Crenshaw has become something of a tutor for Guan here, has played a practice round with him and dined with Guans uncle to discuss the kids future.
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Big deal. I shot 68 on the 1st six holes...
Hey Fred Couples, is that you? :)
I was at the practice round there on Tuesday and followed him for a couple holes - the kid is the real deal. Tom Watson was in the foursome and he would stand back to watch Guan tee off. He would smile and shake his head once off the tee - alot of fun to watch.
Naw, I still have sex and hate ugly pants...
He’s the real deal, but he’s the product of a system - robotic, no emotion, etc. If China wants to kill the PGA, just have the leader board flooded with robotic commies. The golden goose will die.
Korean domination has almost destroyed the LPGA.
the kid is having a pretty good 2 round too at 2 over par thru 13 when there are only 10 under par rounds from the entire field.
the course is playing really tought today.
“Korean domination has almost destroyed the LPGA.”
Maybe the Americans and Europeans gals could play better instead.
It is getting a bit better on LPGA. At least the leading players such as N.Y. Choi, Inbee Park & So Yeon Ryu etc can speak decent English and can smile.
Non-Korean players need to learn from the smooth swings of the Korean players. Paula Creamer would have become another Annika Sorenstam if she got rid of her violent body motion with the longer clubs.
Rickie Fowler playes well in wet weather.....go Rickie...get R done !!!!!
The infamous 18th “Windmill Challenge” at Joe's Putt-Putt Golf at Coney Island....I lost it....cracked!...Took a 10 and never played Putt-Putt golf again....Sad but true......*W*
That may be true, but you missed my point totally - which is - fans don't want a bunch of foreign golfers who all have similar sounding short names, look alike, and for the most part are robotic. The fans are turned off, and that's my point. As for the competitive aspect, I have no problem with it. Golf is a pure meritstocracy.
I think tall Asians with long torsoes may have a natural advantage in golf, and we should expect more of them competing at the top—whether government-sponsored or not.
My buddy and I had two Korean men in our weekly foursome. Funny guys, told us stories about their kids and what they did in business.
Their swings were identical. Mechanical. Down the center of the fairway, lay up, on the green and then they fell apart. Every Korean I played a round with was the same way.
I actually went there years ago.
Far East Asian is genetically interesting. It is said today, man is composed of Neanderthal and Cro Magnon (modern) genes because both actually existed side by side and interbreeded, and Cro Magnon is suppose to be more aggressive and smarter then Neanderthal. Africans are suppose to have mostly Cro Magnon, Europeans have more Neanderthal, and Far East Asians have the most Neanderthal genes. Neanderthal is suppose to be less intelligent, yet Far East Asians have the highest IQ test scores while Africans in general have the lowest IQ test score. Go figure?!!! The other fact geneticist found is Far East Asians have a mutation that separates them from blacks and whites. Asians have thicker hair, more sweat glands and women in general have smaller breasts. Guess they traded more brains and less breasts? Well at least the white men and black men have more fun then the Far East Asian guys/ joke, but a very smart wife on the other hand can be very useful.
That may be the case - interesting point - still won’t sell with the public IMO.
Asians tend to have lower testosterone levels, by a bit, than whites, who have lower levels, by a bit, than blacks.
For men, high intelligence actually tends to be linked to lower testosterone—e.g., check out a college physics or math department. For women, however, it is linked to relatively higher testosterone levels—e.g., check out a college physics or math department.
Also, very athletic men are less likely to be very intelligent, whereas athletic women are more likely to be so.
As to Asian women and intelligence, obviously they haven’t been short-changed there, and of course there is more going on than what I’ve simply described.
A similar argument I suppose could be made for the Kenyans and marathons, though that is a far more extreme example.
In East Africa championship distant runners are the equivalent to LeBron James or Aaron Rodgers in America. There’s a lot of motivation for success in running over there.
No doubt - Yao Ming is a good example that - when their careers are over, they go back to serve the state - same will be true of this kid if he doesn’t break away
“Big deal. I shot 68 on the 1st six holes..”
I shot the same on my first 6 a month ago near Bel Air. Where’s my ESPN suck up?
I don’t doubt that.
I was only referring to the OP’s belief that Americans would lose interest in a sport where all the top competitors are completely foreign to them, and arguably other than for those directly competing, the marathon has gone that way over the past couple of decades.
The relative finance opportunity, reward and need of course tend to be much greater for East Africans than for Americans as well.
“Paula Creamer would have become another Annika Sorenstam if she got rid of her violent body motion with the longer clubs.”
Creamer does not hit the ball far enough. There were rumors that Anika’s length was chemically aided.
Kid shot 75 today including a 1 stroke penalty enforced for slow play... He’s +4 and the current projected cut line is +6
But Kim Jong Il shot an amazing 11 holes-in-one to achieve an unprecedented 38-under-par game on a regulation 18-hole golf course - on his first try at golf.
“my point totally - which is - fans don’t want a bunch of foreign golfers who all have similar sounding short names, look alike, and for the most part are robotic. The fans are turned off”
Sorry, you are totally wrong.
You meant to say “my point totally - which is - fans don’t want a bunch of ORIENTAL golfers who all have similar sounding short names, look alike, and for the most part are robotic. The fans are turned off”
The fact is the white/european/caucasian americans love watching a bunch of russian women who are equally same looking with last names ending in “ova” who are equally robotic.
The fact is the white/euro-americans did not want to watch the black american Williams sisters win either. Ok, Serena is freakish looking but I find Venus to be perfectly acceptable to look at.
The fact is the white americans loved very robotic Borg, Edberg, Vilas, etc. much more than they liked their own Conners, Sampras, Courier, and Chang.
And I would hardly call the Asian women golfers robotic.
I’ve always wondered about the course at the Pyongyang Country Club. What must THAT be like?
That is also a sport that is not dependent on spectators so much....
Wow, you really got your panties in a wad - so let me help you straighten out your laundry.
First, I was not commenting on my own tastes - I’ve never cared much for the LPGA from a fan standpoint at any time, but I have noticed a cooling of the sport and reduced exposure as every other league in golf is surging. I have also noticed a leaderboard dynamic that I think explains it. I was not justifying it, nor condemning it, just making an observation and a prediction.
As for tennis, it is also a sport that is not exactly booming over the past 30 years compared to golf (although it is on a little uptick lately) - and I think the robotic nature of some of the tennis stars is part of the reason. I also think it’s absurd to think that Russian beauties have invaded women’s tennis in the same numbers that Koreans have invaded womens golf. Your analogy is laughable.
Having said that, anything with a bunch of Anna Kournikova look alikes will get a ton of attention. You can’t fight human nature. Now, go get some decaf and quit looking for dark hidden agendas and emotions that do not exist....
“Kid shot 75 today including a 1 stroke penalty enforced for slow play... Hes +4 and the current projected cut line is +6”
It probably was not the kid’s fault for slow play.
His playing partners were Manasero (+2 for the day) and Ben Crenshaw at +12 for the day.
There just are not that many pros who play fast at 12 over.
My guess is the whole group got put on the clock and then Guan was the guy who ended up with the ticket.
The only lpga event I went to was at tartan fields in dublin ohio.
I camped out at one hole where you could see what was happening on 4 different holes. Some asian women won and was playing with creamer in the last group. About 10 people followed that group around and about 300 were following Natalie Gulbis around.
I’ve also been to the memorial in dublin and only about 600-700 follow tiger woods around.
I guess the koreans need to die their hair blonde, get boob jobs and dress like a stripper to make the sport popular.
I broke 80 once. Don’t even try and ask me how the second hole went.
Well physical looks are a huge factor in everything - and becoming more so in the world of sports. Women are just as guilty of this, maybe more so, towards male athletes than men are for womens athletics. Having said that, the LPGA has always struggled to gain a foothold.
As for the Korean stars, who are almost always prodigies, there is a single mindedness of focus that tends to make them boring when they flood the sports leaderboard. Fair or not, it would be more interesting if there were just a few of them - but there’s not much for fans to related to with them. And in golf, relating to the person is important unless there’s something else inherently intersting about you. (Tiger, Rickie Fowler, Freddie Couples, Dustin Johnson, all interesting for very different reasons).
Now, as for small galleries for Tiger at the Memorial? Hmmm. Not sure I believe that. I never noticed that..ever...though I have read with interest the absolute NON relationship Tiger and Jack have. I would not have suspected such.
I checked the scorecards of guan’s group.
on 16, crenshaw took a double bogey, mansero a bogey and guan a par. The slow play penalty was assessed on 17.
guan’s card has 3 bogeys and 15 pars.
I am guessing guan’s group is more responsible for slow play than guan himself.
Yea, like trying to outrun lions.....
A writer for Golf World tweeted that Guan was given three wanrings before the penalty. Also said that two other players were also given penalties for slow play today.
His skill, his calm demeanor and his confidence remind me of young Tiger Woods.
The “commies” did not give Asian children their strong perserverance in the pursuit of something they find they are good at, Asian parenting culture did and still does. Some Americans and their parents are and have been no different.
“fans don’t want a bunch of foreign golfers who all have similar sounding short names, look alike, and for the most part are robotic”
“Look alike” - obvisouly no world traveler you
it’s not exactly “racist”, just culturally isolated
if you grew up as a “white” kid in an Asian country, or maybe even just spent a really great amount of continuous time in an Asian country you’d know the “look a like” meme is no more than a lack of familiarity;
even just might 18 months in Korea in the 1960s taught me that much
“Every Korean I played a round with was the same way.”
And how many Koreans was that and what level golf would you say you all were playing??
Probably a couple of dozen over the course of a few years.
I would say most were shooting in the mid 80’s.
“But Kim Jong Il shot an amazing 11 holes-in-one to achieve an unprecedented 38-under-par game on a regulation 18-hole golf course - on his first try at golf.”
Regulation “miniature 18 hole golf course.” To Kim, a miniature golf course by our standards is Pebble Beach to him.
That brings to mind an Asian female programmer I knew at work.
first of all, she was gorgeous.....but I digress.
We were talking about her family's interests in athletics and education and while education for her kids was foremost and driven into them, they were also active as a WHOLE FAMILY in tennis and golf and everything they did........
Get off your high horse - I was not describing me - I was explaining why the women’s tour has tanked in popularity - and I think my observations are correct. So take your self righteousness somewhere else - and keep in mind that the many millions of golf fans who do not watch women’s golf were not travelers for 18 months in Korea.
My wife and I however run a mission, which we fund ourselves, to many places in the world.
In certain cultures, the government steps in and removes all choice from the parents and the children - China, former Soviet Union, to name a few. Probably North Korea.
My opinion is Paula Creamer starts the downswing too fast. When you do that, all you have is velocity and very little acceleration of club head at contact with ball.
Take a good look at Ai Miyazato’s swing, She actually stops at the end of her backswing, starts slowly and explodes during contact. She is many inches shorter than Paula and many pounds lighter and yet has won more in the last 5 years.
Those rumors about Sorenstam’s PED’s is unfounded. You should investigate how many hours Sorenstam spent in the gym working out with strength training. More than almost any lady golfer!
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