and then his new job gets outsourced to india
Bootcamps, and their associated certs, are good to fool your way past HR people who don't know better.
As soon as these folks get in front of me, they stand out like a sore thumb.
That having been said, if my boss came to me and said, "WBill, you need to be certified. I need a piece of paper that says you know what you say you know".... I'd likely use a bootcamp.
Also, newly minted developers making 80-100K? Nice thought, but that ain’t the truth either.
Sounds like Richard Pryor’s character in the old Superman movie........
For everyone that spends $30,000 and doubles their salary, fifty more are unemployed. Still it is intriguing enough where I should setup a boot camp training system at $11,000 a pop. The only thing holding me back is integrity.
I have seen a whole crop of younger people who did this or had degrees in a non-computer science or math field. They go into “web” development. Last place I worked before getting sick of it and moving on they had dozens of these types who all did make $95K+ with only 1-2 years of experience (I did not make that much until I was in the biz for 10 years). The competition in this field has driven salaries for entry and mid level up artificially with all the “software companies” out there wanting to make something new.
They can code all day long if it is simple but have no real concept of data structures and how to solve problems. They also write shi_t code that has no flow and hard to read. The over complicate the simplest things and have a propensity to want to use a lot of open source crap and plug-ins when they cannot make something work. They usually know java script or something like that and say they know C#, C++, but have no knowledge on how to use it. The also cannot write complex queries in a sql language and rely on frameworks and tools.
They are also the chumps that insist on wearing flip-flops to work and having ping-pong tables and such. They insist on a start-up environment and eventually drive off the level header more seasoned folks because we CANNOT stand them.
Yep, all it takes is Adobe Photoshop, Adobe Illustrator, Flash, PHP, MySQL, Database design, CSS, HTML5, Java, User Interface Knowledge, Photography background, and artistic skills to design decent websites. I am sure the cert covers all this and more.
You want to get job offers, volunteer to give a presentation at a local user group....I did that, and I got offers out the wazoo.
Did he get the three or six month contract?
Sounds great! no need for years of experience to know how to write event handlers to queue up RS-232 input for another thread to run through a state machine to update the user interface to control other hardware and embed a WPF graphical 3D display and high-pass filter the images...
You can learn all about that stuff in just 9 WEEKS!
Send me his resume! I’ll TRIPLE his salary
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This new developer was getting his code hammered in production, they pulled his app, and I asked who had reviewed his code. He said no one. I told him if you work in a vacuum then things are going to suck. He was Indian so I don't think he got the pun.
If you are going to write business programs you need to know business. It really helps to know how your users do things.
Sounds like evidence of a bubble in web related programmer salaries in California. And its completely inconsistent with the going rates for freelance coders. I doubt its true.