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To: Bon mots
Thanks, I had never heard of that one. Possibly because the Rocky Mountains are a fair distance from Europe. I did find that the Red-mouth Bolete of North America (the only ones I'm worried about) is listed as poisonous. There are a couple of others listed as unpalatable. The ones I know from this area are 'choice.'

Red-mouth Bolete (Boletus subvelutipes)

Looks like there isn't much danger of The Devil's Bolete being eaten.

50 posted on 03/18/2013 5:23:20 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye
Surprisingly the devil's bolete does get eaten.
One of the ways to find out if it is "szatan" as it is called here is to touch it to your tongue... the bottom of the cap is bitter. Some people bite a bit and spit it out.

I hear that it is eaten in parts of Italy and the Czech Republic - but never fried as that does not kill the toxins.

I remembered reading about a mycologist living in rural France seeing people eat all kinds of poisonous mushrooms and he was stunned. It turned out that the local practice involved boiling all mushrooms twice and twice draining off teh water prior to cooking.

I also just found out my girlfriend has a mushroom allergy - she was never able to put a finger on her occasional stomach aches until one day when she had shitake mushrooms and had a bad reaction - we then realized what it was.

Shitake mushrooms can give some people a severe reaction akin to food poisoning.

Read up on the French doctor I mentioned above. I read the story in another language and it was fascinating - he ate the deadliest mushrooms THREE TIMES to demonstrate his cure and cured himself.

52 posted on 03/18/2013 5:37:14 PM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: TigersEye
Found this:

As soon as the poisoning effects are noticed 1200mg of Nifuroksazyd and 1500mg of Dihydrostreptomycin should be administered orally
and daily application of 3 grams of vitamin C intravenously.
If the vomiting is frequent and not weakening during the therapy then Metoclopramid should be administered intravenously.

All drugs have to be administered during the 3 day period in the same quantities and during that period only carrot soup should be eaten.

This method was first published in 1970. and didn't get a green light.

On 1971. Dr. Bastien ate a 10 gram mushroom and administered only half of the aforementioned dose without the C vitamin. He got hepatitis.
He cured 82 people with the full dosage from 1971 to 1974.

In 1974 he repeated the experiment on himself, but this time with 60 grams of fresh mushrooms and a full dosage of the aforementioned drugs and only sympthoms he
had was diarrhea wihout vomiting or hepatitis.

With that experiment he drew some interest on his method and since then many people in France were successfully cured.

He ate mushrooms again in 1981 without consequences.

Many people were cured with this method since then.

I thought that it would be good to have such information on the boards.
Not that anyone would need it, but just in case ;)


Also... check out this link:
OLD ARTICLE IN ENGLISH ABOUT THE BASTIEN TREATMENT

53 posted on 03/18/2013 5:44:13 PM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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