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Life ban from Greece teams for Nazi salute player
NBC ^ | March 17, 2013 | Associated Press Sports

Posted on 03/17/2013 10:21:37 AM PDT by 1rudeboy

ATHENS, Greece (AP) -AEK Athens midfielder Giorgos Katidis has been banned from any Greek national team for life after giving a Nazi salute while celebrating a goal in the Greek league.

Greece's football federation said Sunday in a statement that the player's gesture "is a deep insult to all victims of Nazi brutality."

The 20-year-old Katidis gave a Nazi salute after scoring the winner in AEK's 2-1 victory over Veria on Saturday.

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TOPICS: Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: germany; giorgoskatidis; greece; unitedkingdom
I get it, but it still seems a little harsh.
1 posted on 03/17/2013 10:21:37 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

But our athletes are allowed to flash gang signs.


2 posted on 03/17/2013 10:22:44 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 1rudeboy

Banned for life?

Their extreme over-reaction shows something about the fears of their elites.


3 posted on 03/17/2013 10:23:58 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: 1rudeboy

It takes a special kind of stupid to admire Nazis.

Especially in a place like Greece where the Nazis murderd thousands of innocent people.


4 posted on 03/17/2013 10:26:40 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: PGR88
Banned for life?

Only from playing for the Greek national team. Don't know the player, but chances are he wouldn't have been a consideration anyway.

5 posted on 03/17/2013 10:30:09 AM PDT by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: dfwgator

6 posted on 03/17/2013 10:30:48 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: 1rudeboy

Seems pretty harsh to me too since it lasted all of about 1 second, and then he got swamped by his team.


7 posted on 03/17/2013 10:32:07 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: 1rudeboy

Good to see a national socialist get p@wned. It hasn’t happened nearly enough of late. These lefty totalitarians deserve any beating they get 10 times over and more.


8 posted on 03/17/2013 10:48:08 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: 1rudeboy
If you wanted to turn the guy into a full-fledged radical Nazi, this is the way to do it.
9 posted on 03/17/2013 10:52:58 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Seeing as how Germany are the ones that are responsible for a Greece’s problems, at least in the opinion of many Greeks, perhaps it was more of a message to Germany about how Greeks feel about them, rather than his admiration for the Nazis.


10 posted on 03/17/2013 10:55:07 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 1rudeboy

You gotta look at it in the context of Golden Dawn, the up-and-coming Greek fascist party.


11 posted on 03/17/2013 11:01:17 AM PDT by MetaThought
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To: BenLurkin

I don’t know for sure, but I suspect the poor guy has no idea what a Nazi salute was. Seems as a bit of an overreaction to me. JMHO.


12 posted on 03/17/2013 11:12:44 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: PGR88

yet dog killer and dog torturers can play in the NFL in Amerika


13 posted on 03/17/2013 11:22:43 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: mc5cents
I suspect the poor guy has no idea what a Nazi salute was.

That's what I wondered. Was he just extending his arm and saying YEA?

14 posted on 03/17/2013 11:24:32 AM PDT by cotton
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To: cotton

there is no way he does not know.

considering the famin from the occupation and how much of a universal nightmare nazi occupation was and how dislike of german imposed austerity is tracked to nazism accusation...


15 posted on 03/17/2013 11:28:24 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: yldstrk

“yet dog killer and dog torturers can play in the NFL in Amerika”

So can people who eat cows and pigs (without any sanction at all).


16 posted on 03/17/2013 11:32:47 AM PDT by Gil4 (Progressives - Trying to repeal the Law of Supply and Demand since 1848)
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To: Gil4

you are nonsensical, smashing dogs to the ground and eating meat have nothing in common


17 posted on 03/17/2013 11:34:47 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Our President ate dogs.


18 posted on 03/17/2013 11:36:47 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: AppyPappy

Oh don’t get me started, there are a lot of positions filled with those who should be disqualified from holding them


19 posted on 03/17/2013 11:38:33 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: cotton

“Was he just extending his arm and saying YEA?”

Here is the video. I would say probably not, but have a look for yourself. The punishment does seem a bit extreme, however.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gjH9idWG6Y


20 posted on 03/17/2013 11:39:34 AM PDT by Gil4 (Progressives - Trying to repeal the Law of Supply and Demand since 1848)
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To: Gil4

Interesting. What looks like a Nazi salute followed by the black power salute. Or maybe just someone really excited and giving a high salute to the people in the stands. Where are the thought police when you need them?


21 posted on 03/17/2013 11:55:38 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: yldstrk

That was my point. Supporting the Nazis who killed millions of peopleand killing a few dogs also have nothing in common at all.

I think the punishment Michael Vick received was about right. I really don’t have enough information about this guy’s situation to have an informed opinion. He’s 20 - that’s pretty young. I know European sensativities to the Nazis are different than here, but I don’t know what the norm is for punishment in simliar cases. I don’t know if it was his first offense. I don’t know if he was joking around. I don’t know if there were other factors that added significance.

I just don’t see any useful comparison to the Vick case.


22 posted on 03/17/2013 11:55:46 AM PDT by Gil4 (Progressives - Trying to repeal the Law of Supply and Demand since 1848)
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To: BenLurkin

"The Bellamy salute is the salute described by Francis Bellamy to accompany the American Pledge of Allegiance, which he had authored. During the period when it was used with the Pledge of Allegiance, it was sometimes known as the "flag salute". During the 1920s and 1930s, Italian fascists and Nazis adopted salutes which were similar in form, resulting in controversy over the use of the Bellamy salute in the United States. It was officially replaced by the hand-over-heart salute when Congress amended the Flag Code on December 22, 1942."

23 posted on 03/17/2013 11:59:26 AM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: Gil4

does he support the Nazis or was he just being an idiot? I know I was a JAG, one of the idiot lawyers at our intake stopped at the corner and did a Nazi salute but all he meant was that the military was so weird....


24 posted on 03/17/2013 12:19:44 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: MetaThought

“You gotta look at it in the context of Golden Dawn, the up-and-coming Greek fascist party.”

Agree. Greece is still a long way from settling their political and fiscal problems. One likely scenario is that Golden Dawn wins power in an upcoming election then so to block this from happening the Greek military steps in and declares martial law and thereby re-establishes the Junta. Kinda ironic that the creator of democracy has so much difficulty with it....


25 posted on 03/17/2013 1:00:00 PM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: Gunslingr3
Oh.

He was saluting the American flag while saying the Pledge of Allegiance.

Well...that's different.

26 posted on 03/17/2013 1:02:55 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: 1rudeboy

It struck me that way too; EXCEPT if this guy had done or said anything in public previously that would ally him with the Nazis. If not, too harsh and he should be given the benefit of the doubt.


27 posted on 03/17/2013 1:11:27 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Perhaps he should have not used it, but it has a much deeper history that, like the swastika, we have allowed to be utterly stigmatized by those who co-opted it, rather than stigmatizing how it is used, by whom. Like the "zero tolerance" to guns in schools that gets kids suspended or expelled for funny shaped Pop-Tarts, or even disarming & holding a thug holding a real gun to another student's head until police arrive, that would require some use of brain power & (horrors!) discrimination discernment.

Not only does it go back to Ancient Rome, and probably far beyond into the mists of time; but it even has a long (mostly forgotten) history of use in the Good Old U.S. of A.


American students pledging to the flag in a former form of the salute, specifically the Bellamy salute, 1941

The Bellamy salute is the salute described by Francis Bellamy to accompany the American Pledge of Allegiance, which he had authored. During the period when it was used with the Pledge of Allegiance, it was sometimes known as the "flag salute". During the 1920s and 1930s, Italian fascists and Nazis adopted salutes which were similar in form, resulting in controversy over the use of the Bellamy salute in the United States. It was officially replaced by the hand-over-heart salute when Congress amended the Flag Code on December 22, 1942.

The Bellamy salute was first demonstrated on October 12, 1892 according to Bellamy's published instructions for the "National School Celebration of Columbus Day":
At a signal from the Principal the pupils, in ordered ranks, hands to the side, face the Flag. Another signal is given; every pupil gives the flag the military salute -- right hand lifted, palm downward, to a line with the forehead and close to it. Standing thus, all repeat together, slowly, “I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands; one Nation indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all.” At the words, “to my Flag,” the right hand is extended gracefully, palm upward, toward the Flag, and remains in this gesture till the end of the affirmation; whereupon all hands immediately drop to the side.
— From The Youth’s Companion, 65 (1892): 446–447.

28 posted on 03/17/2013 1:22:57 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Gunslingr3; 1rudeboy

Well, my # 28 will teach me to walk away in the middle of posting, then not refresh & read on before finishing my interrupted posting.


29 posted on 03/17/2013 1:27:13 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: yldstrk
I know I was a JAG, one of the idiot lawyers at our intake stopped at the corner and did a Nazi salute but all he meant was that the military was so weird....

I've been known, when faced with a pompous & overly officious petit-bastich, to click my heels, give them a Nazi salute, all while telling them, "yawohl, mein Furher!" Then walking away, sometimes while adding a second, one fingered, salute.

Context is everything.

30 posted on 03/17/2013 1:36:41 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: 1rudeboy

Adolph appropriated a ancient rite of blessing, turned it toward himself. That method of holding the arm toward him was an ancient Christian form of blessing.

Hitler should not be given the ability to still claim credit for it.

How do we know the lad wasn’t using that blessing which is still used in churches to this day.


31 posted on 03/17/2013 1:54:30 PM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: ApplegateRanch

yes, exactly and if someone took it to mean support of the Nazis they would have been so wrong


32 posted on 03/17/2013 2:10:56 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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