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From national championship to jail for 4 Alabama football players (only suspended from team)
CNN ^

Posted on 02/15/2013 10:26:50 AM PST by chessplayer

According to police, Pettway, Hayes and Williams punched and kicked a student shortly after midnight Monday until he was unconscious, CNN affiliate WVTM reported.

The student's backpack with an Apple Macbook Pro was stolen, police said.

About an hour later, Williams allegedly beat up another student until he, too, lost consciousness and took his wallet, WTVM said.

Hayes and Pettway waited in a vehicle, police said.

Later that morning, Williams and Calloway used the second victim's debit card to buy snacks from a vending machine, police said.

The football program suspended all four players indefinitely.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: alabama

1 posted on 02/15/2013 10:27:00 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

The college football system stinks. But, I see nothing here to worry about. 4 kids with criminal tendencies did what criminals will do. They got suspended.

Either they’ll end up in the NFL or in jail.


2 posted on 02/15/2013 10:31:52 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: brownsfan

They’ll have to transfer to play. Sabin can’t afford this.


3 posted on 02/15/2013 10:33:41 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: chessplayer

This article is several days old. Maybe you could find an update on this situation.


4 posted on 02/15/2013 10:35:58 AM PST by petitfour
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To: brownsfan

They were’nt kicked off the team. Only temporary suspensions.


5 posted on 02/15/2013 10:36:27 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: brownsfan

Guilty until proven innocent? Should they have been permanently kicked off the team before their trial?


6 posted on 02/15/2013 10:37:12 AM PST by Bob
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To: chessplayer

There’s no reason for it to be anything but temporary at this point, nobody has been found guilty yet. If they get found guilty or plead guilty make it permanent, but you don’t want to kick them off permanently only to have them acquitted in court, no reason to follow the Duke lacrosse path.


7 posted on 02/15/2013 10:39:16 AM PST by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: AppyPappy

“They’ll have to transfer to play. Sabin can’t afford this.”

I’m happy for the good folks of Alabama, but I’m no fan of Saban. That being said, he’s really smart, and good at what he does. Saban will do what he has to do. If he needs these criminals, er, young men, on his team, they’ll be allowed to work their way back. If not, they’ll be gone.

I think it will be important for the team to give the offenders every opportunity to make amends. It’s showing the kids that the school has their back. (Even if it’s not really true).


8 posted on 02/15/2013 10:39:25 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: chessplayer

“They were’nt kicked off the team. Only temporary suspensions.”

Yes, I believe I typed they were suspended. The term used is indefinite, which in college football, usually means, until this blows over.


9 posted on 02/15/2013 10:41:15 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: chessplayer

10 posted on 02/15/2013 10:42:11 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Confirmation of my suspicions is always a good thing.


11 posted on 02/15/2013 10:44:10 AM PST by wbill
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To: chessplayer

Thugball needs thugs. College thugball needs illiterate thugs.


12 posted on 02/15/2013 10:44:10 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: chessplayer

“2. Possession of firearms, ammunition, and weapons by students is not allowed on campus.”
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A semi-auto with a high capacity magazine would have come in handy for those students who were beaten.


14 posted on 02/15/2013 10:45:13 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?)
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To: chessplayer

The headline writer should wait and allow due process to continue. Let them go to trial before sentencing is pronounced.


15 posted on 02/15/2013 10:45:27 AM PST by Jemian (War Eagle!)
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To: chessplayer

They may be among the growing Race Industry movement to make the Knockout Game an intercollegiate sport. Competition would be conducted among the crowds watching football and basketball . . . .


16 posted on 02/15/2013 10:46:02 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: chessplayer

http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2013/02/three_alabama_football_players.html

Three of the players are barred from campus pending a judicial review. They are done. When Saban indefinitely suspends a player, the player is almost certainly done for good.


17 posted on 02/15/2013 10:47:28 AM PST by petitfour
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To: brownsfan

I wonder what would happen to one of the victims if he crept up on one of the attackers and clocked him in the face with a baseball bat?


18 posted on 02/15/2013 11:14:51 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: petitfour

Williams wants to go home to mommie? She already had a chance to rear him properly and failed.
If I didn’t know better, I would think SEC.


19 posted on 02/15/2013 11:19:34 AM PST by Rannug ("God has given it to me, let him who touches it beware.")
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To: Enterprise

The Scholar Athleets were puttin’ their African American class lessons to good application on the oppressor, old whitey!


20 posted on 02/15/2013 11:19:39 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: iopscusa

While the law collapses, the innocent are oppressed, and the animals run wild, good men watch, wait, remember, and when time decrees it, will deliver a terrible justice.

21 posted on 02/15/2013 11:33:58 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: brownsfan
Yes, I believe I typed they were suspended. The term used is indefinite, which in college football, usually means, until this blows over.

Not here. In nine previous incidents at U Alabama, those players never wore the uniform again (per a local media report this morning). In this incident, one of the 4 have been indirectly associated with this robbery (and is currently being allowed to attend classes), but it's his second strike with the football team, so his future is unclear at best. The other 3 are going to be subject to a university disciplinary tribunal... never mind the legal proceedings.

Make no mistake - this is not a 'sweep under the rug' situation.

22 posted on 02/15/2013 11:43:15 AM PST by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: alancarp

“Make no mistake - this is not a ‘sweep under the rug’ situation.”

That’s a good plan. Mr. Saban could have taught Jim Tressel a thing or two.


23 posted on 02/15/2013 11:49:37 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: brownsfan

The guys at Ohio State were guilty of trading tattoos for memorabilia. Thats hardly in the same league as aggravated assault.


24 posted on 02/15/2013 11:52:57 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: chessplayer

2 have already confessed and rolled over on the others. I say the victims ought to be allowed to beat the thugs until they are out cold.


25 posted on 02/15/2013 11:58:57 AM PST by Ecliptic (.)
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To: bigdaddy45

“The guys at Ohio State were guilty of trading tattoos for memorabilia. Thats hardly in the same league as aggravated assault.”

It wasn’t what the players did, it was how the coach handled it. Tressel swept it under the rug so he could use those players to win a bowl game.


26 posted on 02/15/2013 11:59:43 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: brownsfan

No doubt there. Tressel really screwed the pooch with how handled it. When you compare what was going on at OSU to Alabama or Penn State, it was nothing.


27 posted on 02/15/2013 12:07:00 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: chessplayer; Uncle Chip; smoothsailing

At least these players weren’t on a tean that had an assistant coach who left the team in 1998 but 10 years later was exposed as a homosexual pedophile when a victim finally came forward. Then these players, as well as all the rest of the Alabama players from the past 15 years, would really be in trouble - - they’d have to forfeit all their wins for the past 15 years and pay a $50 million fine to the NCAA.


28 posted on 02/15/2013 12:07:25 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: bigdaddy45

“No doubt there. Tressel really screwed the pooch with how handled it. When you compare what was going on at OSU to Alabama or Penn State, it was nothing.”

As Nixon found out, the cover up is often worse than the crime.


29 posted on 02/15/2013 12:09:46 PM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Lancey Howard; chessplayer; Uncle Chip

Lancey, we both know that if the NCAA can figure out a way to shake down Alabama over this, they will. The NCAA is a criminal enterprise.


30 posted on 02/15/2013 12:18:55 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

After the Cluster-You-Know-What they had investigating Miami, I wouldn’t worry too much.


31 posted on 02/15/2013 12:20:44 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: chessplayer
The student's backpack with an Apple Macbook Pro was stolen, police said.

He took a cue from Cam Newton, I see.

32 posted on 02/15/2013 12:21:47 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: chessplayer

Description of the two beating victims, who will likely face lingering effects of the head trauma they suffered for the rest of their lives?


33 posted on 02/15/2013 12:27:54 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: dfwgator

Yeah, what’s to worry. Emmert and his goons will always be “stunned’ and “shocked” by their own malfeasence, while they’re reaching around to get their hand in your wallet.


34 posted on 02/15/2013 12:31:27 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: brownsfan
Either they’ll end up in the NFL
YEP. They will be stars in the National Felons League
35 posted on 02/15/2013 12:57:45 PM PST by TxAg1981
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To: brownsfan

“Tressel swept it under the rug so he could use those players to win a bowl game.”

My take from Columbus is that OSU’s black athletic director swept it under the rug. Tressel was the fall guy. OSU did not want to make Gene Smith the fall guy because of AA concerns. I have no proof except I watched the press conferences and everytime Tressel was about to answer a difficult question, Smith interupted and shut him up.

Wikipedia says of Smith “He was also identified as one of Black Enterprise’s “50 most powerful African-Americans in sports”. “


36 posted on 02/15/2013 1:10:47 PM PST by staytrue
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To: alancarp

its shameful the opportunities these young men get and they basiclly throw them away....how many other young men would welcome the chance for a free education and adulation from the fans?.....millions.....


37 posted on 02/15/2013 2:21:59 PM PST by cherry
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To: TxAg1981

Ray Lewis retired.
Somebody has to pick up the slack.


38 posted on 02/15/2013 2:26:48 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Bob

A football team’s not a court of law. They play at the pleasure of the coach. Police officers are commonly placed on “administrative leave” while charges against them are pending. See a difference? I don’t.


39 posted on 02/15/2013 2:42:06 PM PST by DPMD
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To: DPMD
A football team’s not a court of law. They play at the pleasure of the coach. Police officers are commonly placed on “administrative leave” while charges against them are pending. See a difference? I don’t.

We're in complete agreement. A temporary suspension pending a trial is entirely appropriate. Permanent removal from the team upon any conviction would certainly be warranted as well.

The sentiments expressed early on in this thread were that a suspension wasn't sufficient.

40 posted on 02/15/2013 2:52:44 PM PST by Bob
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To: chessplayer

No one has ever come back to play for Saban after being given an indefinite suspension. These guys are toast.


41 posted on 02/15/2013 8:04:56 PM PST by ohioman
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To: ohioman
FOLLOW UP:

"Jason Marks ‏@OnTheMarksRadio
RT @Andrew_Gribble Statement from Alabama:
Eddie Williams, D.J. Pettway, Tyler Hayes and Brent Calloway no longer enrolled at UA
(University of Alabama).

Done. - all four are out of school.

42 posted on 02/27/2013 10:46:10 AM PST by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: smoothsailing
Lancey, we both know that if the NCAA can figure out a way to shake down Alabama over this, they will. The NCAA is a criminal enterprise.

Never going to happen. The SEC rakes in way too much money for the NCAA to have one of its top schools get hit too hard. Just like they expedited a review of the Cam Newton situation a few years back and miraculously completely exonerated him just in time for Auburn to play in the BCS title game.

They'll pick on big-name schools, but only when they're not peaking. (Which is when they're most valuable.)

43 posted on 02/27/2013 10:50:47 AM PST by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: alancarp
Glad to see these guys gone. As a Bama fan, I must admit that they are nothing but an embarrassment to the school. They deserve jail time. What's messed up is that the victims were fellow Bama students and most likely bama fans as well. What in the hell were they thinking?
44 posted on 02/27/2013 3:36:17 PM PST by ohioman
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