Skip to comments.From national championship to jail for 4 Alabama football players (only suspended from team)
Posted on 02/15/2013 10:26:50 AM PST by chessplayer
According to police, Pettway, Hayes and Williams punched and kicked a student shortly after midnight Monday until he was unconscious, CNN affiliate WVTM reported.
The student's backpack with an Apple Macbook Pro was stolen, police said.
About an hour later, Williams allegedly beat up another student until he, too, lost consciousness and took his wallet, WTVM said.
Hayes and Pettway waited in a vehicle, police said.
Later that morning, Williams and Calloway used the second victim's debit card to buy snacks from a vending machine, police said.
The football program suspended all four players indefinitely.
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The college football system stinks. But, I see nothing here to worry about. 4 kids with criminal tendencies did what criminals will do. They got suspended.
Either they’ll end up in the NFL or in jail.
They’ll have to transfer to play. Sabin can’t afford this.
This article is several days old. Maybe you could find an update on this situation.
They were’nt kicked off the team. Only temporary suspensions.
Guilty until proven innocent? Should they have been permanently kicked off the team before their trial?
There’s no reason for it to be anything but temporary at this point, nobody has been found guilty yet. If they get found guilty or plead guilty make it permanent, but you don’t want to kick them off permanently only to have them acquitted in court, no reason to follow the Duke lacrosse path.
“Theyll have to transfer to play. Sabin cant afford this.”
I’m happy for the good folks of Alabama, but I’m no fan of Saban. That being said, he’s really smart, and good at what he does. Saban will do what he has to do. If he needs these criminals, er, young men, on his team, they’ll be allowed to work their way back. If not, they’ll be gone.
I think it will be important for the team to give the offenders every opportunity to make amends. It’s showing the kids that the school has their back. (Even if it’s not really true).
“They werent kicked off the team. Only temporary suspensions.”
Yes, I believe I typed they were suspended. The term used is indefinite, which in college football, usually means, until this blows over.
Confirmation of my suspicions is always a good thing.
Thugball needs thugs. College thugball needs illiterate thugs.
“2. Possession of firearms, ammunition, and weapons by students is not allowed on campus.”
A semi-auto with a high capacity magazine would have come in handy for those students who were beaten.
The headline writer should wait and allow due process to continue. Let them go to trial before sentencing is pronounced.
They may be among the growing Race Industry movement to make the Knockout Game an intercollegiate sport. Competition would be conducted among the crowds watching football and basketball . . . .
Three of the players are barred from campus pending a judicial review. They are done. When Saban indefinitely suspends a player, the player is almost certainly done for good.
I wonder what would happen to one of the victims if he crept up on one of the attackers and clocked him in the face with a baseball bat?
Williams wants to go home to mommie? She already had a chance to rear him properly and failed.
If I didn’t know better, I would think SEC.
The Scholar Athleets were puttin’ their African American class lessons to good application on the oppressor, old whitey!
While the law collapses, the innocent are oppressed, and the animals run wild, good men watch, wait, remember, and when time decrees it, will deliver a terrible justice.
Not here. In nine previous incidents at U Alabama, those players never wore the uniform again (per a local media report this morning). In this incident, one of the 4 have been indirectly associated with this robbery (and is currently being allowed to attend classes), but it's his second strike with the football team, so his future is unclear at best. The other 3 are going to be subject to a university disciplinary tribunal... never mind the legal proceedings.
Make no mistake - this is not a 'sweep under the rug' situation.
“Make no mistake - this is not a ‘sweep under the rug’ situation.”
That’s a good plan. Mr. Saban could have taught Jim Tressel a thing or two.
The guys at Ohio State were guilty of trading tattoos for memorabilia. Thats hardly in the same league as aggravated assault.
2 have already confessed and rolled over on the others. I say the victims ought to be allowed to beat the thugs until they are out cold.
“The guys at Ohio State were guilty of trading tattoos for memorabilia. Thats hardly in the same league as aggravated assault.”
It wasn’t what the players did, it was how the coach handled it. Tressel swept it under the rug so he could use those players to win a bowl game.
No doubt there. Tressel really screwed the pooch with how handled it. When you compare what was going on at OSU to Alabama or Penn State, it was nothing.
At least these players weren’t on a tean that had an assistant coach who left the team in 1998 but 10 years later was exposed as a homosexual pedophile when a victim finally came forward. Then these players, as well as all the rest of the Alabama players from the past 15 years, would really be in trouble - - they’d have to forfeit all their wins for the past 15 years and pay a $50 million fine to the NCAA.
“No doubt there. Tressel really screwed the pooch with how handled it. When you compare what was going on at OSU to Alabama or Penn State, it was nothing.”
As Nixon found out, the cover up is often worse than the crime.
Lancey, we both know that if the NCAA can figure out a way to shake down Alabama over this, they will. The NCAA is a criminal enterprise.
After the Cluster-You-Know-What they had investigating Miami, I wouldn’t worry too much.
He took a cue from Cam Newton, I see.
Description of the two beating victims, who will likely face lingering effects of the head trauma they suffered for the rest of their lives?
Yeah, what’s to worry. Emmert and his goons will always be “stunned’ and “shocked” by their own malfeasence, while they’re reaching around to get their hand in your wallet.
“Tressel swept it under the rug so he could use those players to win a bowl game.”
My take from Columbus is that OSU’s black athletic director swept it under the rug. Tressel was the fall guy. OSU did not want to make Gene Smith the fall guy because of AA concerns. I have no proof except I watched the press conferences and everytime Tressel was about to answer a difficult question, Smith interupted and shut him up.
Wikipedia says of Smith “He was also identified as one of Black Enterprise’s “50 most powerful African-Americans in sports”. “
its shameful the opportunities these young men get and they basiclly throw them away....how many other young men would welcome the chance for a free education and adulation from the fans?.....millions.....
Ray Lewis retired.
Somebody has to pick up the slack.
A football team’s not a court of law. They play at the pleasure of the coach. Police officers are commonly placed on “administrative leave” while charges against them are pending. See a difference? I don’t.
We're in complete agreement. A temporary suspension pending a trial is entirely appropriate. Permanent removal from the team upon any conviction would certainly be warranted as well.
The sentiments expressed early on in this thread were that a suspension wasn't sufficient.
No one has ever come back to play for Saban after being given an indefinite suspension. These guys are toast.
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RT @Andrew_Gribble Statement from Alabama:
Eddie Williams, D.J. Pettway, Tyler Hayes and Brent Calloway no longer enrolled at UA (University of Alabama).
Done. - all four are out of school.
Never going to happen. The SEC rakes in way too much money for the NCAA to have one of its top schools get hit too hard. Just like they expedited a review of the Cam Newton situation a few years back and miraculously completely exonerated him just in time for Auburn to play in the BCS title game.
They'll pick on big-name schools, but only when they're not peaking. (Which is when they're most valuable.)
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