Skip to comments.Couple Faces Jail Time for Saving Baby Deer’s Life
Posted on 02/08/2013 8:43:35 AM PST by Beowulf9
An Indiana couple is facing up to 60 days in jail and $2,000 in fines for saving a deer from death. Jeff Counceller, a police officer, and his wife Jennifer spotted an injured baby deer on their neighbors porch. Instead of turning a blind eye to the dying fawn, the Councellers took the deer in and nursed it back to health.
They kept the deer, Little Orphan Dani, in their backyard as it recovered. Everything was fine until an Indiana Conservation Officer spotted Little Orphan Dani in the Councellers yard. The Councellers were charged with unlawful possession of a deer, a misdemeanor offense.
The day that Little Orphan Dani was to be euthanized by the Conservation Agency, the deer inexplicably escaped into the wild. Although Little Orphan Dani was able to get away, the Councellers may not be so lucky.
Historically, crimes have two elements: (1) actus reus (bad act), and (2) mens rea (bad intent).
Most people would agree that nursing an animal back to health is not a bad act in the sense of being morally blameworthy. Keeping the deer is deemed to be a bad act only because the legislature has said it is prohibited. Do we as a society want to punish acts that are not inherently wrong with criminal penalties?
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Bureaucrats......swear to God, they’re totally out of control (not to mention out of their minds).
As a Pennsylvanian,I say good! I wouldn’t give these folks jail time, but I hope they have to pay a nice, hefty fine. The overpopulation of deer here in the Philadelphia area has turned deer into a menace. They cause car accidents, they annhilate gardens, rip up expensive landscaping, and spread lime disease. As far as I’m concerned, the right thing to do if you find an injured deer in your yard (baby or not) is to shoot it. If local ordinance forbids that, contact animal control to do it for you.
Are YOU Heartless and well as STUPID!
So, hunt them, cook them, and eat more of them!
The reason there are so many nowadays is because of idiot laws- their were LESS deer 20 years ago because there were less restrictions on hunting them
Well, no one's ever accused me of being smart and I suppose I am heartless when it comes to deer.
You would be too if you lived in southeastern PA where packs of deer roam the streets like the Crips and the Bloods.
You can’t own the King’s deer, even if you are owning them temporarily to help them...
As an Ohioan, I say good! I agree with the fine. Just because they look like Bambi, doesn't mean that they don't do severe damage to yards, cause car accidents, crap all over yards, etc. Their herds should be culled dramatically and the meat turned over to charitable groups.
Their overpopulation around here is a serious problem.
I just read in today’s paper that the prosecutor is going to drop charges against these people.
Bureaucrats......swear to God, theyre totally out of control (not to mention out of their minds).
It is getting that these little tin pot morons are causing more harm than good and they still continue to justify themselves....
Easy fix. Just put-up “Deer Crossing” signs so that they move to a different location.
Only in New America would people actually go to jail for sh*t like this. I don’t understand my country anymore.
You're absolutely right.
You’re not big on the compassion thing, are you? If you find a dog crapping on your lawn, do you pull out the Glock? Jeeeeze.
Unlawful possession of a deer? Santa is a fugitive
In ONE day we had a deer charge a guy on a motorcycle at one end of our drive and a deer run into the side of a van at the other end of our drive. The motorcyclist lived.
Yes I DO have deer in my yard(Front and Back)! Any YES I hunt them as well(Legally).
“I just read in todays paper that the prosecutor is going to drop charges against these people.”
So glad to hear this.
It really made me think of Jesus saying if an animal falls into a pit on the sabbath which of you would not pull him out, meaning the Pharisees ill use of the law, basically because of their hard hearts.
The law is made to serve man, not man to serve the law.
Well then you have Bambi and the rest of us have real deer that do damage and charge people. And pets. And vehicles.
” You would be too if you lived in southeastern PA where packs of deer roam the streets like the Crips and the Bloods.”
You wanna try a drive by on a pack of deer? :)
You just wait, ScottinVA. They're coming your way. They're already a problem in Delaware. I don't know if they're a problem yet in MD, but I do know they're moving in on ya.
And you're right. I'm all out of compassion for deer. And squirrels. ;)
It's not that I haven't been tempted...
I have deer and other wildlife that damage my yard. I still couldn’t turn my back on an injured deer. I’ve cared for bunnies, knowing full well the damage they do to my gardens if I fail to use effective barriers. I hate having to repair damage, but there are worse things.
What people forget is they aren't sweet doggies. They are wild animals and are as destructive and dangerous as any wild animal.
I watched out my picture window as a herd of does and fawns fed in the field. A doe came out of the pack and kicked another does fawn until it had a huge bloody hole in it's side. She then fed in the spot that the fawn vacated.
They are not sweet, harmless animals.
I live in Pennsylvania too....and deer can be destructive...about 2 years ago our neighbor rescued a fawn...we live out in the country, so he left her roam....she never leaves this area, and comes on the porch when she wants an apple....if we’re in the garage, she comes in there...she’s actually, just like a dog....my neighbor takes her for a walk every night in the summer...in hunting season, he puts an orange vest on her....and when he calls her, she comes...it’s the weirdest thing I’ve ever seen...
A few years ago there was a deer hanging out at the local golf course. The kids were feeding it...(get this) thin mints.
It was there every day for weeks.
Eventually it got aggressive with some golfers and a golfer/county sheriff had to get his pistol and put it down.
Deer can easily becone acclimated to humans and can be very dangerous when they lose their fear of them.
All charges were dropped!
I was told that we faced a fine and possible jail years ago for helping out a chickadee.
I want my country back.
We found a nuthatch that couldn’t fly (broken wing) but we have Vets around here that are certified to care for wild creatures. We called them and took it there with no issues.
The person who wanted all deer dead is heartless, would abort his own child most likely :)
Careful as that sounds very liberal. Children are not on the same scale as a wild animal.
If you check in your state you may find that all wildlife are the property of the people of that state. Indiana happens to be one of those states. That’s all I have to say on that.
Yes, you silly goose.
No good deed should go unpunished. /s
Never call animal rescue. I posted our experiences with one before. We found a baby rabbit that had a broken leg and called the rescue person. She grabbed it and told us right then that all animals in her possession are put down. Uh, excuse me, I don’t think so. I had to get up all in her face before getting the rabbit back. Evil witch. Never again.
New Gov told DNR to reconsider. DNR told prosecutor to drop charges and they announced that they will drop charges.
Confess, I know you'd be tempted. Come on.
I wouldn’t take care of it myself. I’d call my animal control as he works with rescue organizations. I wouldn’t allow it to suffer but I wouldn’t nurse it.
Sorry, my mind was still on the lady who died after an abortion at 33 wks....libs love animals, it is just human animals that they have little value for.
Yes they do. It’s open season on the helpless. So many have been murdered.......
“Are YOU Heartless and well as STUPID!”
There’s alot of that going on, this isn’t the FreeRepublic we started out on.
Only 60 days
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