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To: nathanbedford
There is some suggestion that Hitler was homosexual, clearly the early Nazi party was full of homosexuals.

Detailed treatment of the subject:

The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party

62 posted on 01/19/2013 12:56:46 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Gun control is hitting what you aim at. -- Chuck Norris)
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To: Albion Wilde
Thank you for the link to The Pink Swastika which I have read through. It raises a series of fascinating questions:

1. Is the study to be credited?

2. If it is to be believed, how much weight should it receive?

3. Assuming the authors have delivered good scholarship and further assuming that the study deserves consideration, what should we make of the authors' own disclaimer that the dichotomy between "femme" and "Butch" homosexuals of the Nazi era were probably not the majority but represent the extremes; in other words does this study have application only to the peculiar atmosphere of the Nazi era? Can we apply this dichotomy to homosexuality and politics today?

4. If the analysis is to be accepted can it be applied to modern society? That is, can we say that the great danger of opening the Armed Forces to homosexuals is not that it might render the force effete but that it might brutalize it?

5. I note that Shirer is quoted from his book that for at least a generation was regarded as the historical Bible of the Nazi era, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. He is quoted disparagingly referring to homosexuals. Is there a discernible alteration in the historical treatment of the Nazi era which deemphasizes the homosexuality of the Nazis today compared to a more frank exposition up to a time period which would roughly coincide with the Stonewall Revolution? If so, can we draw parallels to the cleansing of homosexuality from the Nazi era (if it exists) with the treatment of AIDS in the homosexual world?

6. Most of us would certainly concede that there is and always has been and antipathy against religion, especially Christianity, among homosexuals. I have assumed that that was a natural reaction to the biblical treatment of homosexuality and the present time opposition to granting homosexuals equal rights. This treatment adds another dimension to this antipathy which is the occult and suggests that homosexuality and the occult have always gone hand-in-hand which further suggests that if opposition to homosexuality is mitigated, or even withdrawn, it will not affect this inherent hostility.

7. If this study is to be credited, what does it tell us about Obama, specifically, can we draw any parallels between his alleged homosexuality and Hitler's?


108 posted on 01/20/2013 5:30:21 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Albion Wilde

From the Pink Swasitka:

    ”American civilization rests on the basic principles of Christian morality, which have their origin in the Hebrew Scriptures.  The reason why the Nazis first attacked the Jewish people and swore to exterminate them physically and spiritually is because the teachings of the Bible, both the Torah and the New Testament, represent the foundations on which the whole system of Christian ethics rests.  Remove the Bible as the constellation that guides the American Ship of State and the whole edifice of American civilization collapses. “

Written in 1995 but boy did they get that one right.


110 posted on 01/20/2013 6:08:09 AM PST by jsanders2001
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