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Tony Romo, Dallas Cowboys should part ways after latest loss
NFL ^ | Dec. 31, 2012 | Gil Brandt

Posted on 12/31/2012 1:17:23 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

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To: FredZarguna

I hear you and sympathize, but you overlook glaring examples like San Fransisco, which was within a football grazing a knee of the Superbowl, Baltimore, which was denied by a freak field goal miss,the Jets, who went back to back to Championship games with Mark Freaking Sanchez, and especially Pittsburgh, which won two Superbowls and were competitive in a third despite the spotty Roethlisberger.


61 posted on 12/31/2012 3:04:14 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Colonel_Flagg
Two things: 1) I love AP. He has a great story. He has a solid claim on both comeback player of the year and MVP. However, in a just world, Peyton Manning also has good claims to either or both. 2) My statement stands:
The Minivikes are not going to the Superbowl unless Ponder keeps the 120+ QB rating he had yesterday.
62 posted on 12/31/2012 3:05:12 PM PST by FredZarguna (Cryin' won't help ya, prayin' won't do ya no good. When the levee breaks, momma you got to move.)
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To: MattinNJ

True!


63 posted on 12/31/2012 3:09:11 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Tublecane
Oh wow, no. He gets blamed for what is exactly his fault. The Vikings lost because Favre threw a stupid, needless interception at the end of the game, a phrase that could be a headline for his whole career.

He is the game's most overrated athlete.

He won a Super Bowl because he was surrounded by a top notch team and excellent coaching. It's a miracle he didn't blow that game as well. After a decade of seeing their team dragged down by him, the Packers finally were able to be rid of him and won a Super Bowl the very next year with a real quarterback. Why people were obsessed with a careless, interception prone media favorite, I'll never understand. He was the Obama of NFL quarterbacks.

64 posted on 12/31/2012 3:17:13 PM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: GunRunner

Hey, you win the award for most stupid opinion of the year, congratulations!

A Conservative Steelers Fan


65 posted on 12/31/2012 3:17:27 PM PST by ShasheMac
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To: Colonel_Flagg

About AP, you’re right. If he can carry a team into the playoffs when everyone knows just about every first and second down will go to him, with an obviously substandard QB and since Percy Harvin’s season ending injury absolutley no other talent in skill positions offensively, so could Romo times a hundred. Then again, you’re sorta making the previous poster’s point for him if the argument is about winning the Superbowl instead of making the playoffs. For while the Vikings could beat the Packers in any given game, there’s no way Peterson can carry them to the big show, let alone win.

Unless the lightening that struck the Giants twice hits Minneapolis. Then again, Eli Manning is infinitely better than Ponder, no matter the record.


66 posted on 12/31/2012 3:19:05 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: ShasheMac

Sorry, I won’t root for Team Obama. You have fun with that though. Rooney and his boss thank you for your support.


67 posted on 12/31/2012 3:20:38 PM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: Tublecane

The first interception was a wrong route by Ogletree...you can see he bunched up with Witten and did not go where Romo expected him to.

The second, Witten backed up into Romo as he was throwing. Why was the tight end getting backed up, you ask? Because they were getting pressure from 5 linemen...again. Why throw such a long ball under such pressure? Aske their fired coach.

Third, completely Romo’s fault. He thought the guy was blitzing, and instead he fell back into coverage. To make matters worse, Romo sailed it in, a very slow ball.

I’m not a Romo aplogistall I am saying is Dallas is the type of team that needs a quarterback to shoulder all of the load. Another example is the Colts. Their one year without a Manning or Luck demonstrates how one dimensional they are. Well, Romo isn’t that type of quarterback...but most aren’t. All I am saying is find somebody else who is better and available...then Romo can go. If Dallas fans don’t heed this advice, say hello to Michael Vick! or worse!


68 posted on 12/31/2012 3:23:30 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

More and more it is obviously evident that an “elite” quarterback is needed to get to SB. Romo is not even close. Texans should take stock of this statement too.


69 posted on 12/31/2012 3:24:29 PM PST by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: lacrew

I agree. I can’t for the life of me understand why Rom gets the blame all the time. The Cowboys coaching staff made zero adjustments to the Redskins blitz. Evryone knew they were bringing the house on evry 3rd down. Was it Romo’s fault that Bryant went down with back spasms, or Austin being limited due to a sprained ankle. Last I checked Romo doesn’t play defense, and the Cowboys defense has been horrible with the loss of Ratliff, Carter, and Lee. No one is talking about Garrett’s inexcusable play calling. How in the hell do you not run the ball when you have one of the best RBs in the NFL? That last drive was exhibit 1 in crappy play calling. You have 3 time outs and the 2 min warning. You can run the damn ball! Garrett is the problem not Romo. Fire Garrett now!


70 posted on 12/31/2012 3:28:14 PM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: FredZarguna

Manning has some credibility for MVP, but that was a playoff team last year, and they have some weapons. The Vikings went from 3-13 to 10-6, and the only difference on offends was that Peterson played out of his mind great instead of his usual superior. It is hard to overstate what little else there is to the Hiking offense. Ponder was threefold better in yesterday’s game than he has been all year, and that’s really only because he didn’t throw an interception. There were absolutley no aerial targets since Harvin went out for the season. There are 8, 9, 10 men in the box every down he’s onfield.

The only better argument for MVP was Peyton the year he sat out and the Colts went from the playoffs to one win.


71 posted on 12/31/2012 3:29:43 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: GunRunner

No one cares who you root for, you just made a stupid statement.


72 posted on 12/31/2012 3:32:38 PM PST by ShasheMac
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To: ShasheMac
OK Team Obama fan! Whatever you say!!


73 posted on 12/31/2012 3:36:29 PM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: Tublecane
Joe Flacco had a career year in 2011. Personally, I believe that was the summit of his talent and he's now in the "diminshing skills" category. The self-proclaimed "best quarterback in the NFL" was certainly on the skids this year.

Within the limitations of the offense designed for him, Mark Sanchez has always been adequate until this season. Would Rex Ryan like to have someone better? Sure. Even in the years the Jets went to the AFC playoffs they did not win their division; and if my memeory serves (and it may not, I despise New York sports teams and don't follow them closely) they have never won a division under Sanchez. So why is he still around? For reasons that the author of this article should reflect on: For all the reasons I gave in my original post and many others, NFL QB is the most demanding position in any team sport, and quarterbacks of Romo's calibre are not scanning the want-ads for work.

While hatred for the Steelers on a thread about the Dallas Cryboys is hardly surprising, Ben has a lifetime 92.7. Among active quarterbacks that makes him 7th, which is not "spotty" when one considers the thoroughly awful o-lines he throws behind. If Brady had Ben's protection, his rating would be in the low 50's. Citing him as an example makes my point: despite having one of the elite defenses in the NFL, Roethisberger had a bad year. In consequence, so did the Steelers.

Good defense is still important, but great defense alone will not get you to the Superbowl. It should, but it's becoming increasingly unlikely, and becoming less important every year. The result is crappy football: track meets where the last team holding the ball wins.

The Cowboys were within one quarter of winning their (admittedly weak) divison last night. That they were even in a position to do that is as much a credit to Romo as the defeat is to his blame.

74 posted on 12/31/2012 3:43:14 PM PST by FredZarguna (Cryin' won't help ya, prayin' won't do ya no good. When the levee breaks, momma you got to move.)
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To: GunRunner

While not utterly meaningless, the interception had little impact on the ultimate result. They were in field goal range before a twelve men penalty pushed them back. Then Favre extended a play and threw across his body in his usual foolhardy manner. But there was little else he could do, as though there was open ground in front of him he was hobbled from the many hits of the night and couldn’t run for it. So he forced it, but what did it lose? A chance at another play perhaps, where I guess a miracle was supposed to happen.

It’s always possible they could have scored anyway without the turnover, but time was dear and the penalty all but assured they were going into overtime. Then it was a long sludge after the Saints won the toss of booth reviews on seemingly every play until they kicked their way to the Superbowl. If you want to go back and wonder what they could have done differently, look not at the falsely dramatic last minute interception but the myriad fumbles, only one of which Favre might have been responsible for.

“He’s the game’s most overrated athelete”

It’s hard to argue otherwise, since you can be both great and overrated. However, I don’t think you can make the argument for a guy who owns every single record for his position, at least until Peyton takes them away, as well as holding the Iron Man record, which granted only a QB or kicker probably could earn these days. Why would you? Because he also holds the golden raspberry interception record? That lacks perspective.

By the way, the Packers did NOT win the very next year without Favre. There were in fact two seasons inbetween, one of which saw Favre lose the championship game by a hair with a division rival. And I don’t know how Rogers winning a Superbowl somehow gainsays Favre’s status as a “real” QB. Favre won a Superbowl, too, and he never squandered a 15-1 team. Reggie White and Desmond Howard were helpful, too, but it’s not as if Rogers did it alone. I truly can’t understand where you’re coming from with this line of argument.


75 posted on 12/31/2012 3:55:18 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: GunRunner

Yes, my family has been Steelers fans for over 75 years, just holding our breath until we could support Obama.


76 posted on 12/31/2012 3:56:06 PM PST by ShasheMac
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To: GunRunner; ShasheMac
I never tire of pointing out that the Steelers are the only team with an owner in Obama's cabinet.

You should tire of it, because it isn't true. Dan Rooney was appointed ambassador, which isn't a cabinet level position. He also isn't the only owner of the team. Or are you actually on Team-0 yourself? They seem to be making up crap just about every day.

The Steelers aren't owned exclusively by Dan Ronney. About half of the ownership is conservative, including a Rooney who's a Florida Congressman [Tom Rooney, lifetime ACU 88% -- the same as Alan West.]

Many of the players were unhappy with Rooney's idiotic endorsement of Zero, as were most Steeler fans. His father, an observant and staunch Roman Catholic is spinning like a lathe in his grave.

The base Steeler Nation isn't just in still heavily Democrat Allegheny County; it's also in conservative Central PA, conservative Eastern OH, and conservative West VA.

Get a clue.

77 posted on 12/31/2012 3:58:37 PM PST by FredZarguna (Cryin' won't help ya, prayin' won't do ya no good. When the levee breaks, momma you got to move.)
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To: ShasheMac
If my favorite team's owner gave a bunch of money to Obama, talked about what a great guy he was, then accepted a BS, nepotistic appointment to Ambassador in return, it would be my solemn duty as a human being never to root for them again.

Their misfortune is conservatism's gain. It was heartwarming to see them miss the playoffs; they'll have just a little less money to funnel to the Obama machine.

78 posted on 12/31/2012 4:00:33 PM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: lacrew

You’re absolutely right about there needing to be a viable alternative. I just don’t see the same burden on Romo you do (footballwise, that is, not mediawise). The Cowboys are a decent team, not great but also not in need of Herculean feats at QB. Romo is in nowhere near the position of Adrian Peterson, who made the difference almost singlehandedly between 3-13 and 10-6. The only other difference, really, was an improved secondary, and they were arguably worse off offensively apart from him.


79 posted on 12/31/2012 4:00:46 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: FredZarguna
Nice dodge. He's CEO of the damned team. Enjoy rooting for Team O:


80 posted on 12/31/2012 4:09:39 PM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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