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Bicyclist Stabs Motorist in Northwest D.C. Confrontation
NBC ^ | Friday, Dec 7, 2012 | Jackie Benson

Posted on 12/10/2012 3:48:38 PM PST by Morgana

A bicyclist who apparently was angry at being cut off in traffic fought with and stabbed the motorist he believed to be responsible.

D.C. police officers were called to the 1600 block of Massachusetts Avenue NW about 10:20 p.m. Wednesday for a report of a stabbing. Witnesses told investigators that a bicyclist struck the driver's side mirror of a Smart car with a heavy bike lock.

According to the police report, the driver then got out of the car and asked, "Why did you do that?"

That's when it escalated into a fight, which ended, according to witnesses, when the bicyclist stabbed the driver in the ribs and fled the scene.

More bikes and cars are sharing the road than ever before in the District, and it can, at times, make for an uneasy co-existence. Gregory Billing of the Washington Area Bicyclist Association said it’s important for both motorists and bike riders to observe the rules of the road. He noted that the time of year when the days are shortest is the most hazardous.

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1 posted on 12/10/2012 3:48:45 PM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

You should read the comments on the page at the link. The cyclists and the fed-up drivers are going at it.


2 posted on 12/10/2012 3:53:34 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: rabidralph

Is why I posted this here!! I know how most FReepers feel about the spandex nazies.


3 posted on 12/10/2012 3:55:03 PM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: rabidralph

I thought they had knife control in D.C. ‘Bout time they make it a law . . . no knifes! (/sarc)


4 posted on 12/10/2012 3:55:22 PM PST by laweeks
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To: Morgana

LOL! Thanks for thinking of us!


5 posted on 12/10/2012 3:58:05 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: Morgana

I am sick of the bicyclists in my town. I really don’t care what happens to them at all. If they get killed, being stupid children- I won’t cry about it.


6 posted on 12/10/2012 3:58:44 PM PST by Truth2012
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To: rabidralph

I try to post the stories that FReepers will like best...

Now have at it everyone, I want to see funny pictures and remarks that only FR can do!!


7 posted on 12/10/2012 4:00:14 PM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Morgana
Is why I posted this here!! I know how most FReepers feel about the spandex nazies.

Most FReepers can't tell the difference between responsible riders that always let cars have the right of way, who have been riding for most of their life like me, and the spandex Nazis/hipsters on fixed gears.

8 posted on 12/10/2012 4:00:33 PM PST by wastedyears (I don't want to live on this planet anymore.)
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To: Truth2012

I hear you.


9 posted on 12/10/2012 4:00:49 PM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Morgana

Witnesses told investigators that a bicyclist struck the driver’s side mirror of a Smart car with a heavy bike lock.


Smart car driver vs. bike rider. Not sure whose side I’m on.


10 posted on 12/10/2012 4:04:12 PM PST by bramps (Sarah Palin got more votes in 2008 than Mitt Romney got in 2012)
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To: wastedyears

Most of them are like me, have had bad experiences with those nazies.

Had one pull out in front of me, my light was green his was red. They don’t seem to think the rules of the road apply to them. He got upset cause I would not break for him, well I had the right of way. I also have a ton of steal around me, what does he have for protection? Spandex and a crash helmet. I’d think he would have known better.


11 posted on 12/10/2012 4:04:36 PM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: bramps

The driver! At least he HAS to obey the rules of the road where has bikers think it does not apply to them.


12 posted on 12/10/2012 4:05:34 PM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Morgana

That looks like fun to me.


13 posted on 12/10/2012 4:06:24 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: wastedyears
Most FReepers can't tell the difference between responsible riders that always let cars have the right of way, who have been riding for most of their life like me, and the spandex Nazis/hipsters on fixed gears.

That's because, with few exceptions, their behavior is the same.

14 posted on 12/10/2012 4:06:28 PM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: SunTzuWu

Maybe I should get a GoCam and make an instructional video on how to properly ride a bike.


15 posted on 12/10/2012 4:11:07 PM PST by wastedyears (I don't want to live on this planet anymore.)
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To: Morgana

I commute to work on a bike when it’s not raining, and I always CCW when I ride. I’m very polite, too (see: Robert Heinlein).


16 posted on 12/10/2012 4:14:18 PM PST by Disambiguator (America chose...poorly.)
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To: Morgana

One of those idiotic Cabinet Members of Obozo bikes to work.

May be commendable BUT the 2 Black Suburbans that have to guard him create twice the pollution than the one it would take to drive him in.

PLUS how much extra fuel while keeping those ‘tanks’ idling at bicycle speeds.


17 posted on 12/10/2012 4:15:26 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: Morgana

I ride my mountaintrail bike at the shoulder here.
Even so, I have idiots aim at me despite my not doing anything in the lane side of the road.

That said, I have seen bicyclists block the entire road by riding in the lane and expecting everyone to just plod along behind them.
[This in a 55 MPH zone.]

Basically, it’s “this is MY space, stay out of it.” territorial aggression.


18 posted on 12/10/2012 4:16:41 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: wastedyears
None of the Spandex Nazis would watch it.
19 posted on 12/10/2012 4:17:41 PM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: Truth2012

I bike to work. I assume all cars are there to kill me. It makes one careful!


20 posted on 12/10/2012 4:19:19 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (BOHICA eGOP!)
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To: Morgana
I took a spill just a few days ago when I was charged at by a large pit bull who came from out of nowhere.. Landed on my head. Luckily the dog didn't continue with the attack and ran off. Lucky for him, otherwise he would have been shot.

I agree with many of the posters here. Just because you have the right of way doesn't mean you should insist upon it. Especially when tonnage rules.

21 posted on 12/10/2012 4:22:56 PM PST by semaj
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To: semaj

” Luckily the dog didn’t continue with the attack and ran off. “

Probably snickering behind its whiskers, “Hey look what I did to that goofy human.”
Dogs are like that regardless of breed.
On my road it’s a beagle.
Riding along and next thing you know you have a beagle on you.

One road over it’s a bluebird that nails you.
I avoid that road.


22 posted on 12/10/2012 4:25:39 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: semaj; Darksheare

Was driving with my then boyfriend when a dog ran out in the road and was barking at my car. I veered to try to miss it but almost went off the road in the process. My boyfriend said to me “if the dog wants to commit suicide then let him but don’t wreck your car over a dog”.

He is correct and since then I keep my eyes on the road and drive strait ahead. Not going to wreck my car for a dog or a person on a bicycle but if they hit me it’s their fault.


23 posted on 12/10/2012 4:34:40 PM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

If you ride on the sidewalk then no one is out to kill you. If you ride in rush hour traffic, in a group of 20 children, who are trying to piss everyone off, then all bets are off.


24 posted on 12/10/2012 4:41:19 PM PST by Truth2012
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To: Morgana
Logically, biking makes no sense to me.

If you're doing it for exercise, a stationary bike makes far more sense. You can do it in the comfort of your own home, more carefully monitor your heart rate, resistance levels, calorie burn, etc. and not have to worry about exhaust fumes, road rash, punctured tires, stop signs, intersections, stop lights etc. In short, in an hour on a stationary bike and an hour on a road bike, you'll get better quality exercise on a stationary bike.

If you're using a bike for commuting or general transportation, a car is far more useful. You get where you're going faster, can carry more stuff with you, and you're not sweating like a hog when you get there. Some people will argue that in a big city they are more efficient (i.e. the bike couriers in NYC), but in all honesty, the only advantage they offer is that it's far easie to flagrantly violate traffic laws on a bicycle.

In my mind, the only place a bike really makes any sense is if you're taking a mountain bike someplace you really can't get in a car.

25 posted on 12/10/2012 4:42:43 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Truth2012

What are the laws in your town in regards to cyclists?

Do bikes have the same right to be on a road as cars and trucks?

Are there bike lanes?


26 posted on 12/10/2012 4:43:36 PM PST by OKRA2012
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To: Morgana

“the driver then got out of the car”..
Darwin alert


27 posted on 12/10/2012 4:45:53 PM PST by austinaero
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To: rabidralph

Exactly how hard is it to knock a review mirror off one of those stupid toy cars? I suspect a cyclist could sneeze as they rode by and blast the mirror across the street..geeesh.


28 posted on 12/10/2012 4:47:09 PM PST by austinaero
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To: Morgana; semaj

Had a black lab run head first into the side of my car on Route 6 as I was heading towards Middletown.
Surprised the crap outta me.
One second I’m tooling long at 55, next thing I hear is “Clunk” and i see a dog sliding across the road behind me.
I pull over, put on the hazards and looked the car over.
Small dent, nothing much.
Dog was fine, oddly enough.
And pleased as punch that people were talking to him.

We found his owner and asked them to take him for a looksie at the vet.
Dunno if they did, they never contacted me about it.


29 posted on 12/10/2012 4:50:51 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Morgana

Perhaps we need to ban knives. After all, people are getting killed. If it wasn’t for that knife, there would be no crime here.


30 posted on 12/10/2012 4:53:05 PM PST by dforest
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To: Joe 6-pack

“In my mind, the only place AN ATV really makes any sense is if you’re taking AN ATV someplace you really can’t get in a car.

There, fixed it for you.


31 posted on 12/10/2012 4:56:26 PM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Morgana

Not self defense. Bikeliberalmania.


32 posted on 12/10/2012 4:59:23 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Darksheare

“We found his owner and asked them to take him for a looksie at the vet.
Dunno if they did, they never contacted me about it.”

Okay wait a minute!!

Most states have a leash law, so why was “rover” not on it?

Second because the dog was not contained by his/her master it hit your car and did damage to your property.

Yea I’d be calling his master about paying for my damages not the dogs. If the dog had been on his leash that would not happened. I am sorry dogs get hit everyday but it is the duty of the master to keep them safe not your duty to kill yourself trying not to hit them.


33 posted on 12/10/2012 4:59:36 PM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Morgana
LOL...believe it or not, I was going to qualify that statement by saying, "and if you can't afford a dirtbike or ATV," but in the case of mountain biking, I can see that as an exercise/health option like hiking or backpacking, and they are nimble enough to go some places I actually wouldn't take an ATV or dirtbike.
34 posted on 12/10/2012 5:00:50 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Morgana

That knife has been hanging around guns for too long and now look what happens. A good knife gone bad. He was probably born to be hunting knife with asperations of becoming a butcher knife. but in the wrong company he went from being a concealed weapon/pocket knife to a STABBER.


35 posted on 12/10/2012 5:03:05 PM PST by dirtymac (Now is the for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: Morgana

My concern was for the dog, not the owner.
The vet I knew, I would have had a dog out of the deal.

Dunno why the dog was out, owner didn’t seem too concerned.
*idiots*


36 posted on 12/10/2012 5:05:34 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Joe ‘round these parts we only use an ATV to go up and down the holler.

You think the cars are hard on the spandex nazies? They have never clashed with the ATV’ers!


37 posted on 12/10/2012 5:07:04 PM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Darksheare

“Dunno why the dog was out, owner didn’t seem too concerned.
*idiots*”

Exactly! It is not that I don’t care for the dog but buying a new car in this economy is kinda hard. Like I said not gonna crash my car over a dog let out by a careless master.

In a perfect world we would smack the owner but usually I just call the pound.


38 posted on 12/10/2012 5:10:00 PM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Navy Patriot
That looks like fun to me.

That is a picture from 2008 story of a drunk driver who fell asleep at the wheel and plowed his car into a bike race. He injured 10 and killed 1.

39 posted on 12/10/2012 5:15:48 PM PST by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: Morgana

Dunno what the outcome was.
The trooper behind me stuck around after telling me to split.
:-/

If anythng, he likely called animal control.
I didn’t have a cellphone at the time.
Regret having one now.

Ever see those mind numbed robots on “Cops”?
They sit there and say the dumbest stuff possible?
That’s what the owner was like.
Haven’t seen the dog since.


40 posted on 12/10/2012 5:17:09 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Morgana

I wonder how a group of bicycles would do against a 13,000lb John Deere?


41 posted on 12/10/2012 5:21:36 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Truth2012

I ride in traffic. I either keep up with the cars and follow the laws, or get out of the way.

And defensive biking is 10x more important than defensive driving. You have no mass as a biker. Each of those cars can kill you. Ride accordingly!


42 posted on 12/10/2012 5:23:35 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (BOHICA eGOP!)
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Probably not so well.
And we do have idiots here that will block the lane and look at you as if you are the idiot.

Flipside, we have idiots who will try to tag you with the vehicle simply because you are there, doesn’t matter if you are on the other side of the white line or not.
I was on grass when I had a truck try to hit me.


43 posted on 12/10/2012 5:27:27 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Truth2012

When I drive, it’s a 4 door Tundra 4x4. When I’m home, I’m armed. 2hen I bike, I have double blinkers front and back, masses of flourescent, etc. When I vote, I vote as conservative as is available. Biking is not a political act. :-)


44 posted on 12/10/2012 5:27:38 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (BOHICA eGOP!)
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To: Morgana

If bicycles were banned this wouldn’t have happened.


45 posted on 12/10/2012 5:31:12 PM PST by x
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To: Farmer Dean

“I wonder how a group of bicycles would do against a 13,000lb John Deere?”

Question hard to answer without knowing if the Bush Hog attachments were turning .......


46 posted on 12/10/2012 5:43:57 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: GladesGuru

I’d probably have to stop from time to time and clear the shreaded spandex from the radiator to avoid overheating the engine.


47 posted on 12/10/2012 5:48:38 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Biking is not a political act. :-)

It sure seems to be taken as a political act on FR.

And I suppose not just on FR. I had a woman accuse me of "saving the earth" after I got off my bike in a supermarket parking lot. She beamed at me in what she apparently thought was a special moment of communion between two kindred liberal spirits.

I told her firmly that I was not saving the world, I was just riding my bike. I'm certain that she did not understand. If she knew my political views she probably would have spit on me.

48 posted on 12/10/2012 5:49:54 PM PST by TChad
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To: Morgana

My post was a joke. You have the tree hugger smart car driver vs. tree hugger biker. Si?


49 posted on 12/10/2012 5:50:39 PM PST by bramps (Sarah Palin got more votes in 2008 than Mitt Romney got in 2012)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Over here- it is a political militant act. It drives me nuts. They dart in and out of traffic and ride is a swarm. They love Sunday mornings so they can really mess with people. It is totally out of control. I have even spoken with the police about it, because I am going to have a new driver soon- and they make the roads hazardous. The police agree that they are a huge nuisance and cause danger- but it is a political green movement- and nothing is going to stop them. We even have miles and miles of parks and trials and places for bikes- and they love to mess with drivers. They are not biking to work, in groups of 23-30.


50 posted on 12/10/2012 6:15:52 PM PST by Truth2012
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