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As a theologically and politically conservative Protestant Christian who's been a Bond movie fan since I was 10 years old, I found this article interesting.
1 posted on 11/26/2012 8:06:24 PM PST by ReformationFan
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What’s wrong with being a womanizing killer?


2 posted on 11/26/2012 8:11:08 PM PST by mnehring
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I heard a talk radio show say that the actor or the director or someone close to the Bond films was asked who would make the best Bond.. Obama or McCain?

"Obama," replied the dork. Then he added something about how McCain couldn't handle that macho role and Obama could.


4 posted on 11/26/2012 8:17:09 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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In the early books he was both but with a real conscience. For instance in “Dr. No” Bond tells Felix Leiter that you know me too well for that”. In response to a question about if Bond had killed someone.

Of course if need be he definitely would kill.

Also in “From Russia With Love”, Bond asks the Gypsies to stop the girl on girl fight.

The most immoral Bond to me was in “The Man With the Golden Gun” which had just about zero to do with the book’s storyline. Bond simply murders the gunsmith who made Scaramanga’s gun. I think Cubby Broccoli was pushing an anit-gun message in that movie.


6 posted on 11/26/2012 8:18:19 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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Call in the crew..

“I haven’t seen all the Bond movies; only four (I think) in their entirety, including the latest, Skyfall, plus scenes from a couple of others”


7 posted on 11/26/2012 8:27:12 PM PST by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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I remember when DR NO was released when I was in High school. The newspaper reviews and critics at that time were AGHAST at the rank sadism and womanizing in the film.

Cold blooded MURDER by the hero, 007! “That is a Smith & Wesson. You’ve had your six.” Pop, pop, pop. pop.

Sadism by DR NO! Too much skin from Ursula Andres!

Ect.

It is so mild by today’s standards.
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8 posted on 11/26/2012 8:33:00 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The parasites now outnumber the producers.)
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I really have never liked Bond for that very reason.

However, my husband says he does fall in love but those are the girls that die...

then at the end of the movie he is with someone and we are led to believe that he is in love...however by the next movie she is gone and you are then left to think, oh darn, didn’t work out.


9 posted on 11/26/2012 8:37:04 PM PST by Beowulf9
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You know, i saw on tv, they have medicine for Low-Testosterone these days. Sounds like the writer needs a dose.


10 posted on 11/26/2012 8:55:13 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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You know, i saw on tv, they have medicine for Low-Testosterone these days. Sounds like the writer needs a dose.
A “chaste spy”? lol


11 posted on 11/26/2012 8:55:30 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To some extent the womanizing smoking drinking gambling Bond was what Fleming was as well. Obviously not exactly but Fleming drew from his own experiences as well as those he knew from his own past. The movie Bond simply extended the character into a cartoon like fantasy. Not sure if Fleming would have approved of the direction the movies took Bond after he passed away or not. I think he was on the set for the first 3 movies.


12 posted on 11/26/2012 8:57:12 PM PST by xp38
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To cut this short: It is not How you fight that matters. Reality dictates that (unless you want to lose). It is WHY you fight that matters.

There was even a Star Trek episode involving the Gorn and a gun made of bamboo that addressed this - under the auspices of uber-lib Roddenberry.


13 posted on 11/26/2012 9:08:28 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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The article’s last paragraph reveals all.


18 posted on 11/26/2012 9:26:04 PM PST by fattigermaster
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I think the writer is naive in the extreme. I can agree with the womanizing being a definite moral flaw in the Bond character, but on the other hand, although the “spy game” is fictionalized, there is some truth to the never ending deception that I’m sure plays a major role in clandestine warfare - and, warfare is what it is.

Often, the Bond character was after needed information from many of the women he “communed with”. Of course, the most unbelievable part of the Bond mystique is the constant womanizing - but that’s Hollywood, not reality.

However, I think people forget that “spying” is also warfare just as much as front line combat. The killing of other spies and their allies is on the same moral plain as killing in “special ops” or in open warfare with infantry and tanks.

But, the killing is just part of warfare. The spies are soldiers just like the other branches of the military. So, maybe it’s “shame” on Bond for the fornication, but the killing? I don’t think it’s any different than the fighting and killing from that of the Navy Seals, or Army Rangers, or any Marine Infantry Division


19 posted on 11/26/2012 9:28:46 PM PST by rusty schucklefurd
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The Bond books and movies share only a passing resemblance. The most faithful screen adaptation happens to rank last among audiences, On Her Majesty's Secret Service.

The Bond of the books has a conscience. He doesn't enjoy his vodka martinis as much as pound them in an effort to anesthetize himself. His frequent showers suggest, at least to this reader, an attempt to cleanse his guilt a la Lady Macbeth.

I had high hopes for the re-boot with Daniel Craig. I naively believed we'd get faithful adaptions of Fleming's excellent novellas. Silly me.

25 posted on 11/27/2012 4:17:06 AM PST by Oratam
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The problem is the Bond personna was all about one man daring to confront evil, daring to fight corruption, daring to twart mad men and any goal of world wide domination.

Which is fine when you live in fantasy land, the reality is this, Bond should be addressing realty.

Make the next Bond movie about him removing a Manchurian candidate from Washington DC. About him finding real documentation of an usurper, the facts of who was behind him all along, the adventure of Bond fighting Acorn Agents.

This is realty, give Bond the ultimate mission much like going after SPECTRE or Dr. No.


28 posted on 11/27/2012 5:03:12 AM PST by Eye of Unk (A Civil Cold War in America is here, its already been declared.)
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