Arguing with a progressive is like arguing with a fence post!
“Arguing with a progressive is like arguing with a fence post!”
The fence post would win any argument with a progressive.
Agreed, which is why I refrained from arguing and simply gathered information. I have no expectation of persuading them, and in fact have come to realize the futility of persuasion in pretty much any venue of life. People can change their minds, but they cannot be made to change their minds. it will indeed be interesting as the increasing pain in the future has any effect on them, or if they will simply remain delusional as their foolish ineptitude results in their deteriorating lives.