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Congratulations to Jim Robinson for His Political Sagacity Overwhelmingly Accurate

Posted on 11/10/2012 3:00:14 PM PST by lbryce

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To: Alaska Wolf

The point is that Romney is no Mr. Nice Guy especially when dealing with conservatives. He used everything he could exploit to beat a conservative. But when it came to running against a liberal, Mitt gets all sweet and dewy eyed, conning some into thinking he was a “nice” guy.

This tendency to love on liberals while trashing every conservative showed up time and again. Just think about Mitt’s adverse reaction to Chick-fil-a day. If it’s conservative, it’s no good, but if it’s liberal kiss its butt, does not play to conservatives.

But that has always been liberal Mitt’s problem.


121 posted on 11/10/2012 7:43:50 PM PST by Waryone
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To: KC_Lion

Actually some very interesting stuff on Goldwater and his well known (at the time) honest support of minority causes.

http://www.frankenlies.com/lies/civilrights.htm

My personal opinion is that Goldwater actually supported a certain degree of limited affirmative action to break the old cycles. The civil rights act enshrined that in the constitution for all times and has been a disaster for every last one of us.


122 posted on 11/10/2012 7:46:22 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
If I recall Correctly.

And I think I do!

Goldwater supported the 1957 Civil Rights Act and Lyndon Johnson helped to water down and Kill it in the Senate.

Ain't History Strange?

“I’ll have them n*ggers voting Democrat for the next two hundred years.”-LBJ

123 posted on 11/10/2012 7:48:33 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Cannon6

Remember 92? Yes, I do and that’s the entire point. “Read my lips, no new taxes!”

Conservative Republicans do not turn out in droves for guys who raise taxes or fees, or who defend Roe v Wade as settled law, or who say abortion should be safe and legal in America, or who promote gays in the scouts or gays in the military, or who appoint liberal judges, or who push gun control, or who push amnesty, and for crying out loud conservatives do not turn out in record breaking numbers for liberal Republicans who push compulsory (socialist) health insurance!

Conservatives do not turn out in droves for liberals or RINOs!!

They could not energize the conservative base for Read my Lips Bush, nor for Bob Dull, nor for Juan McCain, and they could not energize the conservative base for mandate-loving Myth Romney!

We prayed otherwise (especially with the flurry of favorable poll activity near the end) , but this election was essentialy doomed from the moment that the Massachusetts liberal got the nomination, so don’t blame me, don’t blame the tea party, don’t blame the third parties, don’t blame the evangelicals, and don’t blame the conservative base. The blame for this flustercluck rests squarely on the shoulders of the incompetent, tea party-hating, conservative-hating GOP-e architects and wannabe puppet masters who engineered it.

If you wish to win the presidency as a Republican you must run a candidate who has a solid history of fully supporting the founding principles and the pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-small-government, pro-defense GOP platform.

Romney has no such history. Conservatism is a second language to him. He gave it the old college try (recently), as far as talking the talk, but he’d never walked the walk and had no real shot at it (IMHO).


124 posted on 11/10/2012 7:50:12 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: cripplecreek

Yup. That was a big issue for me too. Screw the RINOs. They’ll never learn the lesson.


125 posted on 11/10/2012 7:57:14 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: KC_Lion
Ain't History Strange?

The fact that "conservatives" like Coulter will knowingly and repeatedly lie about something like Goldwater is no less damaging to America than any lies from the liberal left.

If people want to know what's wrong with America they need to take a long hard look in the mirror and ask themselves if they have the moral courage to be honest with themselves at all times.

Another thread popped up today from last year where FReepers were happily trashing that "idiot" Michele Bachmann.

Bachmann Warns of Hezbollah Training Camps, Weapons in Cuba (sept 06)
126 posted on 11/10/2012 7:58:30 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Jim Robinson
If you wish to win the presidency as a Republican you must run a candidate who has a solid history of fully supporting the founding principles and the pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-small-government, pro-defense GOP platform.

Get a Clue GOP!

127 posted on 11/10/2012 7:59:23 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: cripplecreek
The fact that "conservatives" like Coulter will knowingly and repeatedly lie about something like Goldwater is no less damaging to America than any lies from the liberal left.

A National Health Service to include all existing government medical agencies.

Social insurance, to provide for the elderly, the unemployed, and the disabled

Limited injunctions in strikes

A minimum wage law for women

An eight hour workday

A federal securities commission

Farm relief

Workers' compensation for work-related injuries

An inheritance tax

A Constitutional amendment to allow a Federal income tax

Republicans can fall far.

In many ways they become our worst enemies, That Dark Side is all corrupting.

If people want to know what's wrong with America they need to take a long hard look in the mirror and ask themselves if they have the moral courage to be honest with themselves at all times.

"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.”

-- John Quincy Adams

That means don't be a Slave to a Party Ideal, don't be for Coca Cola when it shares the same ingredients as Pepsi, but Coca Cola markets and panders to YOUR demographic.

128 posted on 11/10/2012 8:08:30 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: cripplecreek
Another thread popped up today from last year where FReepers were happily trashing that "idiot" Michele Bachmann.

What Color Hijab do you think they will look best in?

Once the Brotherhood has it way, we won't have any other worries.

129 posted on 11/10/2012 8:10:44 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: lbryce

Jim Robinson warned us all that we should not be voting for Romney and he turned out to be absolutely right.
***And then, later on, he said we should vote for Romney.

Obama the capitalism-hating, liberty-hating, America-hating Marxist ...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2920626/posts?page=778


130 posted on 11/10/2012 8:21:38 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: cripplecreek
BTW genius, Santorum was effectively out of the race by the time they got to PA

BTW genius, I was referring to Santorum's resounding defeat in his US Senate race with Casey. Please try to keep up or I'll have to hold you back a grade.

131 posted on 11/10/2012 8:22:49 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (USA!)
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To: Jim Robinson
They could not energize the conservative base for Read my Lips Bush, nor for Bob Dull, nor for Juan McCain, and they could not energize the conservative base for mandate-loving Myth Romney!

Funny how so many Republicans are panicking about how to reach out to hispanics, gays, etc. and not their conservative base. Ronald Reagan was savaged by the media and others because he had the support of the Moral Majority but it worked out for him. Still, I am afraid that the myth that the most moderate Republican primary candidate is ipso facto the most electable may never be dispelled. On November 6, I believed that Obama's re-election had to be prevented -- period -- and so I voted for a very flawed candidate, Mitt Romney. I do not regret my vote, but I hope the message sinks in that there are many, many other conservatives who abstained from voting and are likely to do so four years from now if their beliefs are ignored or trivialized and their votes are taken for granted.

132 posted on 11/10/2012 8:29:47 PM PST by Atticus
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To: Waryone
The point is that Romney is no Mr. Nice Guy

I don't believe I ever made that claim or even find it pertinent.

He used everything he could exploit to beat a conservative

Who is the conservative to whom you refer?

Just think about Mitt’s adverse reaction to Chick-fil-a day

What do you mean?

Mitt Romney: Huge Chick-Fil-A Fan - Politics - The Atlantic Wire

The Romney campaign comes to a sudden stop when we spot a Chick-fil-A. Your chicken sandwiches were our comfort food through the primary season, and there were days that we needed a lot of comforting.

theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/05/mitt-romney-huge-chik-...

Mitt Romney: Huge Chick-Fil-A Fan - Yahoo! News

In some ways, it is fitting that I share this distinction with Truett Cathy. The Romney campaign comes to a sudden stop when we spot a Chick-fil-A. Boycott chik a fil right-wing nut jobs whats not to like pay minimum wage and get rich.

news.yahoo.com/mitt-romney-huge-chik-fil-fan-184617576.html

133 posted on 11/10/2012 8:48:32 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (USA!)
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To: Jim Robinson
If you wish to win the presidency as a Republican you must run a candidate who has a solid history of fully supporting the founding principles and the pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-small-government, pro-defense GOP platform.

Who might that be?

134 posted on 11/10/2012 8:58:07 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (USA!)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Any of the ones running but Romney. Sarah would’ve been my first choice but the GOP-e ran her off. I would have settled for Bachmann, Cain, Santorum, Perry or even Newt. All were pro-life, pro-family, pro-small government, pro-defense and all much more conservative than the mandate-loving Romney.


135 posted on 11/10/2012 9:06:24 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Go back to my original post, the one to which you first responded. The point is that Romney is no Mr. Nice Guy when it comes to dealing with conservatives and conservative ideas. But he loves the liberals.

He has no time for a conservative based rally. He refused to support Chick-fil-a day. He didn’t want anything to do with it.

I really don’t care where Romney likes to go to eat. I was talking about his lack of support for a conservative rally day for Chick fil a. Those two articles you posted had nothing to do with Chick fil a day. They were both written months before it happened. Milquetoast Mitt wanted nothing to do with Chick-fil-a day, preferring to remain neutral on the subject.

Here’s an article that appeared right here on Free Republic (somewhat prescient don’t you think):

Romney’s silence on Chick-fil-A may cause voters to ‘simply stay at home,’ Donohue warns

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2915974/posts

As to the conservative to whom I was referring, it was all conservatives. Since Romney even trashed Reagan to make himself look good. Mitt Romney has a long history of trashing conservatives so you pick one. If the candidate is conservative and gives Romney any trouble, they get trashed.

You need to read that freep thread I posted above. We knew what was going to happen with Mitt Romney as a candidate. Warning was given.


136 posted on 11/10/2012 9:36:48 PM PST by Waryone
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To: Atticus

Yup. They should be reaching out to the tea party and their conservative base. Pandering will get them nowhere. They can never out pander the socialist democrats. Hispanics need jobs and a booming economy just as much as anyone else and they’re family oriented. Sell the message of expanding opportunity, real security and freedom for themselves and their posterity. Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness!


137 posted on 11/10/2012 9:44:30 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: blueunicorn6

Yes, and that it’s much easier to manufacture votes in just a few races.


138 posted on 11/10/2012 9:49:21 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
I would have settled for

Many of us would have "settled for", but that doesn't mean any of them could have won against Obama. The MSM would have crucified Bachmann, Cain and Palin just like many so called conservatives did on internet forums.

Perry was another Texan like Bush and virtually eliminated himself. NAFTA Newt, the philanderer, wasn't going to be acceptable to Evangelicals and women. Santorum lost his US Senate race in Pennsylvania and endorsed Specter over Toomey. He also didn't appear to have enough passion or desire for the campaign. (Who could blame him?)

So we'd better find an acceptable and viable candidate in the next few years, if it isn't already too late, and have him/her vetted and ready to roll.

139 posted on 11/10/2012 10:03:01 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (USA!)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Well, just make sure he’s not an abortionist, homosexualist, global balonyist, amnesty pushing, government healthcare pushing, liberal judge appointing, gun-grabbing, flip-flopping RINO and we’ll have a better shot at it next time. Somethings should be obvious.


140 posted on 11/10/2012 10:09:40 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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