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Instead of Amnesty, How About Education?
11-9-12 | me

Posted on 11/09/2012 9:09:49 AM PST by Anti-Hillary

Instead of this courting the Latio vote through amnesty, I suggest educating them about conservatism. How? There needs to be a "Rush" for Latinos on the radio now!! Also, how about a Spanish speaking version of Fox News? Thoughts?


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1 posted on 11/09/2012 9:09:55 AM PST by Anti-Hillary
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To: Anti-Hillary

It ain’t about amnesty. It’s about free crap and progressive tax charts.


2 posted on 11/09/2012 9:12:57 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Anti-Hillary

I’ve often thought the same thing. TV at least seems uniformly Dem, just like in english. I’m not aware of any spanish language equivalent to Rush or Levin (or Buckley if you’re as old as I am).

Since we have Rush, its hard for people to remember how it was before he existed. There was no one in the major media who reflected your heartfelt principles or your gut instincts about things; it was almost an orwellian world and easy to wonder if you were yourself the crazy one. Then Rush spoke up and people heard their own thoughts in his mouth. Amazing.


3 posted on 11/09/2012 9:16:03 AM PST by marron
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To: Anti-Hillary
Great idea, imo.

Any organization that won't even entertain an idea like this isn't interested in solving the problem humanely.

4 posted on 11/09/2012 9:16:55 AM PST by MichaelCorleone ('We the People' can and will take this country back...starting today.)
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To: Anti-Hillary

I think they have just been conditioned to believe that Republicans hate them and will never vote for us in a million years.

That is why I think we should formally disband the Republican Party and all become Democrats and fight them from within.

That way, if everyone belongs to one party, candidates will once again compete on the merits of our ideas and not just on the letter behind our name.

Lets run (and vote) in the primaries. If we lose there, lets rally behind whatever third party candidate is running, but lets definitely abandon the Republican Party. Too many voters have been trained to hate us, and I don’t see that ever changing in the future.

Tell me where I’m wrong.


5 posted on 11/09/2012 9:17:55 AM PST by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: Anti-Hillary

Amnesty is what got us in the shape we are in.


6 posted on 11/09/2012 9:18:33 AM PST by yarddog
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To: Proud2BeRight

It’s about all those things plus affirmative action.


7 posted on 11/09/2012 9:19:57 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Anti-Hillary

Nothing like that will work.

When America becomes as bad or worse than the s&^% hole they left, then they will search around for alternatives.

That goes for other citizens as well. When the US becomes like the place that their grandparents, the spoiled and lazy grandchidren will try to find an alternative too.

I am not really optimistic. People will be a long time reaching the saturation point on freebies! Immature people NEVER reach that point


8 posted on 11/09/2012 9:20:54 AM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: Anti-Hillary

Our education system is going to teach what? The Constitution? That would be helpful however the socialist in our Education system twist what the Constitution means!


9 posted on 11/09/2012 9:22:44 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: Anti-Hillary

We can’t even motivate ‘our side’ how the hell are we supposed to convert anyone.


10 posted on 11/09/2012 9:23:02 AM PST by moehoward
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To: Anti-Hillary

Amnesty is nothing more than lowering the standard,the mess we have now is a result of lowering the bar.
Lazy moochers always take the shortest route.
Only the legal ones will be conservative because they understand what it takes to be free.


11 posted on 11/09/2012 9:24:22 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: tallyhoe
This was not about the school system. This was about outreach and “education” to the Latino community via, the new media.
12 posted on 11/09/2012 9:26:56 AM PST by Anti-Hillary (Soon everything in America will be "free", except it's people.)
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To: yarddog
Illegal aliens are government growth hormone

Assuming there are 30 million illegals in America, that's enough to create some 50 congressional districts and they don't even need to vote to do it. If they do vote, you can pretty much count on those districts being almost exclusively democrat. As it is we don't know how many districts exist almost wholly due to the presence of illegals.

The costs of administering a single district must run into the millions. How much pork can a district seek? How many earmarks? What will all those new democrat congressmen vote for?

If you think Obamacare is bad, you haven't seen squat. Wait till the day all those democrats start dictating how many cars a family can have, what job you can have, or where you can live. Wait till they dictate that all paychecks come from government and you get a small cut of what is left over.

Illegals are nothing but government growth hormone and amnesty today is nothing short of treason.

13 posted on 11/09/2012 9:29:03 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Anti-Hillary

I’d rather just educate them about the pride that comes from fighting for their own country instead of running to another because its easy.


14 posted on 11/09/2012 9:30:31 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Anti-Hillary

Q: Why do most illegal immigrants come to America?
A: Free stuff from Obama’s stash.

The problem isn’t immigration or amnesty. The problem is socialism and dependency.


15 posted on 11/09/2012 9:32:13 AM PST by Thane_Banquo ( Walker 2016)
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To: Anti-Hillary

Good, constructive suggestions.

One of the more reasonable contributors over at NRO this week suggested similarly that instead of big donors pouring hundreds of millions into ads each election cycle that they invest in media organs.

The usual suggestion is to create conservative ones. But I’d rather see them buy or compete with the so-called mainstream ones—and just infuse them with conservative staff and perspectives. Same goes for all level of cultural contributions: movie studios, literary publishing, etc..

Also, I think we need to look at a serious alternative to public education indoctrination. Could it be trying to come up with superior online social studies, literature, and other such classes that conservative legislatures could force their states to support as alternatives that students could choose over the usual leftist drivel?

While we’re at it, why not similar traditional math and phonics reading options as well? A more broadly well-educated populace is still important.

Same could be done for college humanities classes at state schools. How many students wouldn’t rather fulfill those requirements through something online that could be done on their own schedule, rather than by schlepping into some liberal professor’s domain two or three times a week?

This latter approach (and even the same at the secondary education level) could lead to both greater learning and more cost-effective public school spending.

The strategy would be three-pronged:

1) to buy out and beat out the for-profit entertainment and culture industries,

2) to starve and beat out the educational establishment, and

3) as should really go without saying, of course cut off taxpayer spending on public radio, public television, and inevitably leftist-leaning arts funding.

We’ve got to both drain the swamp and replace it with a healthier ecosystem.


16 posted on 11/09/2012 9:34:54 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Proud2BeRight

Even the ones who have jobs, ask anyone who works for one of the tax services. They’ll tell you they flock in for their Earned Income Credits from the first moment, and they know how to game the system to get the most credit. Little or no income taxes, in fact, often getting a “refund” for taxes never even paid or withheld, ie. free money.


17 posted on 11/09/2012 9:37:43 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Anti-Hillary

I think it’s a good idea and one I haven’t thought of.

We need to start reaching people in different ways. This requires us to think differently to come up with ways to get the right message out to others. Different people from different cultures have to be reached out to in different ways. And no, I’m not saying to pander to groups in giving out things. Even “white” people on FR have different ways and cultural differences.

Don’t let the posters here at FR who think that Fox News and Rush aren’t pure enough for them tell you that you are crazy or stupid.


18 posted on 11/09/2012 9:39:03 AM PST by Mr Fuji
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To: Anti-Hillary

Oh ok. I assumed it was about educating the Hispanic community.


19 posted on 11/09/2012 9:50:30 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: Mr Fuji
Don’t let the posters here at FR who think that Fox News and Rush aren’t pure enough for them tell you that you are crazy or stupid.

MARK LEVIN: We conservatives, we do not accept bipartisanship in the pursuit of tyranny. Period. We will not negotiate the terms of our economic and political servitude. Period. We will not abandon our child to a dark and bleak future. We will not accept a fate that is alien to the legacy we inherited from every single future generation in this country. We will not accept social engineering by politicians and bureaucrats who treat us like lab rats, rather than self-sufficient human beings. There are those in this country who choose tyranny over liberty. They do not speak for us, 57 million of us who voted against this yesterday, and they do not get to dictate to us under our Constitution.

We are the alternative. We will resist. We're not going to surrender to this. We will not be passive, we will not be compliant in our demise. We're not good losers, you better believe we're sore losers! A good loser is a loser forever. Now I hear we're called 'purists.' Conservatives are called purists. The very people who keep nominating moderates, now call us purists the way the left calls us purists. Yeah, things like liberty, and property rights, individual sovereignty, and the Constitution, and capitalism. We're purists now. And we have to hear this crap from conservatives, or pseudo-conservatives, Republicans.
20 posted on 11/09/2012 9:51:17 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: tallyhoe
Well, if I had a magic wand, I would love to teach all the things you mentioned in school tomorrow. And we should not stop fighting to do so. I was just throwing out suggestions on what could be done right now, today, to educate the Latino voter.
21 posted on 11/09/2012 9:56:10 AM PST by Anti-Hillary (Soon everything in America will be "free", except it's people.)
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To: Anti-Hillary

You mean like open offices in the Latino districts?


22 posted on 11/09/2012 9:59:12 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: Anti-Hillary

Remember Weekly Reader? Well, now it’s called Scholastic News. It has a liberal slant, and it’s being read each week by our students. I want a conservative magazine for students. Wish I had the money to start one.


23 posted on 11/09/2012 10:27:43 AM PST by vickixxxx
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To: Anti-Hillary
Rush has the idea: amnesty without voting rights. Stay if you’re here, but don’t vote for 25 years. Everything the Dems say they want, but not the one thing that the Dems actually want.

The Hispanics will learn in a hurry. THAT is education for you!!

24 posted on 11/09/2012 1:58:39 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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