Posted on 11/07/2012 8:14:26 PM PST by SeekAndFind
You nailed it. I’m writing an article on these very numbers. We lost because most conservatives didn’t vote. They stayed home.
Doug Brady came to similar conclusions: http://conservatives4palin.com/2012/11/its-the-turnout-stupid.html
But the way I see it, this is our route for a comeback in 2014 and 2016. We have everything we need to save the USA.
Except, that is, for a conservative party to bring the voters home to America.
Can you say “Fraud”?
imo, and i’ve said this for a while, a lot of people did not want to vote for obama (except for the liberal elites and the welfare citizens).....people wanted to vote for someone else.....i really don’t think Romney gave them a good enough reason to vote for that someone else...
if Romney had been able to do from July through election day what he did from the first debate to election day there might have been a different outcome...
i also think there were a lot of stories that were never pushed by Romney (closing down Bain and flying 30 employees to NY to search for a colleagues missing daughter...paying for 7000 pints of milk for a VA hospital in MA out of his pocket) and were never broadcast nationally that would’ve helped his cause “connecting” with people....Romney could not tell the story but his surrogates could’ve gotten others to tell it...
Something is rotten.
I have friends on the ground in Ohio and Virginia who say the turnout was much greater in their towns than in 2008. It does make me wonder a lot about fraud.....
So, why did conservatives not vote?
Laziness? Prefer a pure conservative to a flip flopping opportunist like Romney?
This is the age old debate that has been occurring in thread after thread here in FR.
Many FReepers just COULD NOT pull the thread for Romney because they say he was a RINO governor from MA who was pro-choice before he decided to be pro-life, and was the inspiration behind Obamacare.
The counter question has always been this -— IS OBAMA AS THE ALTERNATIVE A BETTER RESULT FOR THE COUNTRY?
These people would rather make the perfect the enemy of the not so bad.
Well, that’s the reason we are here today.
Anecdotally I talked to two conservative Catholics and that was a reason they wouldn't vote for him.
RE: Can you say Fraud?
There could be some. But I don’t believe it is enough to give Obama a 2 million vote margin.
Just look at the numbers -— OVER 10 MILLION LESS OVERALL VOTERS IN 2012 COMPARED TO 2008, and ROMNEY ACTUALLY GETTING LESS VOTES THAN McCAIN !!
2 Million cheated votes? Highly unlikely ( unless we have solid evidence of this of course ).
It was individual dem vote fraud, and more significantly, dem fraud by way of voting machine manipulation. This election was stolen just like in any other dictatorship-3rd world banana republic hell hole. It’s over. They know how to manipulate the voters, and the votes, and just enough so it is not blatant. They will save that for later. You know, like when the other Hussein used to get 100 percent of the Iraqi vote.
I thought i read several times or saw it McCain won the popular vote.
RE: Anecdotally I talked to two conservative Catholics and that was a reason they wouldn’t vote for him.
So, Catholics would rather have as president, someone who :
1) Refuses to protect babies born alive from botched abortions.
2) Someone who goes to a church with a Pastor who damns America.
3) Someone who does not even go to church at all today.
I would like to propose a different theory.
Perhaps the evangelical Christians decided that they could not vote for a ticket consisting of a Mormon and a Catholic.
I hope that is incorrrect but if it is true I would personally like to thank them ever so much for giving us 4 more years of unfettered tyranny because of their religious predjudices.
The low vote count was something I noticed on election night even before the election was called for Obama.
Yes, its clear that many of the Republican voters stayed home.
Proportionally, Obama lost a lot more voters than the Republican candidate from 2008 but not enough to entirely change the outcome.
It’s all very disturbing and I don’t know what to make of it.
There was a core group of Republican voters who were VERY motivated (you can see them in the early-morning election day turnout and relatively good GOP early voting result). Yet at the same time, there were clearly some who didn’t vote at all.
It’s all very depressing. The Democratic Party has long had Blacks in their pocket, but now Latinos as well, and as long as these groups continue to vote along ethnic lines it makes electing a Republican president in the future much, much harder.
Edit to add:
4) Supports Gay marriage
5) Forces Catholic institutions to provide abortificents and contraceptives.
6) Is being sued by these same Catholic institutions.
Good questions. I’ll cover what I think in my article, which I’ll offer to AT or PP next week.
Why the conservatives didn’t vote any reason is difficult to accept for those of us who see Obama as the worst possible alternative.
But vote they did not.
The why is the key to our victory and our republic, if we can keep it.
RE: Perhaps the evangelical Christians decided that they could not vote for a ticket consisting of a Mormon and a Catholic.
So, what is the alternative? To just sit back and allow this person to be President:
Someone who :
1) Refuses to protect babies born alive from botched abortions.
2) Someone who goes to a church with a Pastor who damns America.
3) Someone who does not even go to church at all today.
4) Supports Gay marriage
5) Forces Catholic institutions to provide abortificents and contraceptives.
6) Is being sued by these same Catholic institutions ( and evangelical schools like Wheaton )?
As I said before -— the problem we have is we make the perfect the enemy of the not so bad.
The end result is — WE GET SOMETHING VERY BAD.
I talked to a Gary Johnson voter today.....:(
Yes the vote total appears to be down, but mainly for Obama. I predict that Romney will exceed McCain's total in 2008, i.e., 59 million.
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