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The James Bond Chronicles: 'Casino Royale'
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Posted on 11/04/2012 6:46:36 AM PST by Perdogg

Like most origin stories, “Casino Royale” makes for great storytelling. Unlike most origin stories, however, it is executed with near perfection.

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1 posted on 11/04/2012 6:46:39 AM PST by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

There has been no “Bond” since Sean Connery.................


2 posted on 11/04/2012 6:51:37 AM PST by JW1949
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To: JW1949

Reading Ian Fleming’s books in the early ‘60’s, Sean Connery turned out to be the exact “eye’s image” of Bond from the books....


3 posted on 11/04/2012 6:52:58 AM PST by JW1949
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To: Perdogg

Daniel Craig is an awesome Bond.


4 posted on 11/04/2012 6:55:12 AM PST by agere_contra ("Government creates nothing" - Romney, 2012)
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To: GSP.FAN; Guenevere; SJSAMPLE; Larry Lucido; fieldmarshaldj; Clemenza; Impy; archivist007; ...

I think this movie was okay, of course the Flemingesque elements were there. I had problems with this movie:

1. Endless chase scenes. The first one was okay but the one at MIA was silly and the last one in Venice was downright stupid.

2. Le Chiffre did not translate well to the modern adaptation. He appeared to be weaker and effete than he should have been.

3. Craig sort of grunted his lines.

4. The fact that this movie came after “Die Another Day” made it seem better than it really was.


5 posted on 11/04/2012 6:56:15 AM PST by Perdogg (Vote like the US Constitution depends on it - it does!!)
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To: Perdogg

For those that collect the Blu-ray movies a heads up at Walmart, they sell a budget version of Casino Royale that ONLY has Thai subtitles. The voices have English and French but no subtitles in English.


6 posted on 11/04/2012 7:07:52 AM PST by Eye of Unk (OPSEC)
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To: Perdogg

I agree about the chase scenes. I don’t know if it is just me, but I had trouble hearing some of the lines, as if the audio was not done well at times.

With Casino and QS, you can’t miss a minute or two because you will stand the chance of being lost with the rest of the film. They both require your complete attention.


7 posted on 11/04/2012 7:09:27 AM PST by FL911
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To: agere_contra

re: “Daniel Craig is an awesome Bond.”

Hear! Hear! Totally agree. I also like the fact that every single woman in the scene does not fawn over Craig, like they did with Connery.

I loved Sean as Bond, but I think I like Craig a bit more. I also like that the films aren’t quite so “gatchety”. The plots are much better as well.

As to the chase scenes, I mean, come on, it’s an action film . It’s supposed to have chase scenes - it’s not exactly reality - right? That’s why seeing the film is an “escape” for a couple of hours.


8 posted on 11/04/2012 7:09:48 AM PST by rusty schucklefurd
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To: FL911

Bond doesn’t play Texas hold’em poker.


9 posted on 11/04/2012 7:12:36 AM PST by Perdogg (Vote like the US Constitution depends on it - it does!!)
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To: Perdogg

My favorite James Bond movie is the 1954 version of “Casino Royale,” a TV movie in which Barry Nelson plays James Bond, an agent of the CIA (”Combined Intelligence Agency”). My least favorite James Bond movie is the 1967 version of “Casino Royale,” which I considered at the time to have been the worst movie I had ever seen.


10 posted on 11/04/2012 7:23:28 AM PST by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: Perdogg

That was a conscious choice by the director because Baccarat is a deathly dull game on film.


11 posted on 11/04/2012 7:24:31 AM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Little Pig

It was played in Dr No and On Her majesty’s Secret Service.


12 posted on 11/04/2012 7:26:06 AM PST by Perdogg (Vote like the US Constitution depends on it - it does!!)
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To: rusty schucklefurd

I agree 100% my favorite Bond movie.


13 posted on 11/04/2012 7:54:21 AM PST by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: Perdogg; Impy; Clemenza; GOPsterinMA

Like some of the latter ones, I’ve only watched it once or twice. Perhaps as a stand-alone film without 50 years of a franchise, it might be OK, but too much of the old-time class and style just isn’t there.

I’ve commented before that the male villains since the ‘90s have been consistently weak and largely forgettable. I don’t know whether it is the actors, the writing, or perhaps both. I think the last remotely effective and memorable villain was probably Robert Davi’s Franz Sanchez in “Licence to Kill.”

It’s the one thing I always appreciated from the Connery-to-Dalton era: nearly all had effective male villains, with perhaps the low point being Curd Jürgens in “The Spy Who Loved Me.” Not that he was a bad actor, I just thought the character wasn’t strong enough. The worst thing you can have in an action/adventure film is a villain who is just outright boring, and this has been a consistent problem in the Brosnan-Craig era.

Even worse is when you have good actors, such as Jonathan Pryce, but the characters they play are more of a political statement than an attempt at entertainment (with Pryce “satirizing” Rupert Murdoch, which seemed more offensive than anything else). Pryce CAN play a helluva a villain (watch him in the criminally underaired “Something Wicked This Way Comes”), but this was just pathetic. I wonder if this same fate will befall Javier Bardem in the new JB film.

Count me as one who actually preferred the comedic “Casino Royale” of the late ‘60s, even if it overdosed too much on silliness and unevenness (borne of having too many directors and contributors). I’m also partial to the Herb Alpert theme. Perhaps also it is because Bond seems more at home in that ‘60s era than he does today in this less-than-stylish era. Le Chiffre was played in that film by Orson Welles, and he was so breezy in it. I don’t even know the name of the actor in the recent one, Mads Something ? Just didn’t seem like there was anything there. Male model with no depth.

Without rehashing my avalanche of complaints about Daniel Craig, except to cite a few... his basically being the wrong type for the part. I’m a soap opera fan, though the production values and quality of actors have been diminishing for some time now. Craig reminds me so much of the automaton Jason Morgan on “General Hospital.” A child of privilege on his way to becoming a doctor, gets into a near-fatal car accident, incurring a severe brain injury, and turns into a joyless hitman/mob enforcer for Sonny Corinthos. Craig’s JB is like Morgan. These guys should be working for SPECTRE, alongside Red Grant (and Grant had a lot more charm and panache).

For those whom are fans of Craig, most don’t even understand that he’s miscast in the role. I simply think he’s too remote, too cold. When Connery was JB, a lot of men wanted to emulate him. Does anybody seriously want to emulate Craig ? The last Bond I wanted to emulate was the charming and classy Timothy Dalton. Hopefully the next actor will be closer to that model.


14 posted on 11/04/2012 7:58:13 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Perdogg
Bond doesn’t play Texas hold’em poker.

And he doesn't drink Heineken.

15 posted on 11/04/2012 7:58:35 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Big Bird is a brood parasite: laid in our nest 43 years ago and we are still feeding him.)
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To: KarlInOhio
"You drink, sir?"

"I'll have a Heineken, shaken; not stirred."

16 posted on 11/04/2012 8:10:08 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (A vague disclaimer is nobody's friend)
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To: KarlInOhio

only red stripe when he drinks beer.


17 posted on 11/04/2012 8:10:25 AM PST by Perdogg (Vote like the US Constitution depends on it - it does!!)
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To: JW1949

Sean Connery was drawn as James Bond for the comic strips 10 years before the movies..... best book- You Only Live Twice. Wish they had stuck to the story when making that movie.

Look up John McLusky, his Bond is Connery.


18 posted on 11/04/2012 8:10:49 AM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: longfellow

19 posted on 11/04/2012 8:17:51 AM PST by Perdogg (Vote like the US Constitution depends on it - it does!!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Real men don’t “emulate” other men. A man isn’t really a man until he becomes himself.


20 posted on 11/04/2012 8:18:26 AM PST by Sirius Lee (A man isn't really a man until he becomes himself.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Real men don’t “emulate” other men. A man isn’t really a man until he becomes himself.


21 posted on 11/04/2012 8:18:43 AM PST by Sirius Lee (A man isn't really a man until he becomes himself.)
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To: Sirius Lee

I understand, but what I meant was aspiring to the style, the class, the dress, the attitude. Craig doesn’t inspire.


22 posted on 11/04/2012 8:27:21 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Sirius Lee
Real men don’t “emulate” other men.

Allow me to echo this sentiment.
23 posted on 11/04/2012 8:48:29 AM PST by golux
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Perdogg; Impy; Clemenza; GSP.FAN
From Yahoo this morning:

http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/daniel-craig-beats-superman-jake-sully-win-bond-080154863.html

I always thought Gabriel Byrne would have been a very good Bond.

Mrs. Dash - nature's true aphrodisiac.

24 posted on 11/04/2012 8:50:35 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (The Glove don't fit, but it's better than a burqa.)
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To: Perdogg

Casino Royal was two movies tied together with some plot connections. The first half was the best Bond film ever. I’ve watched it many times. It ends when the girl left the restaurant. The rest is a puzzling and unnecessary coda. They missed a great opportunity to end the movie there.

I’ve never read the books, and grew up with Sean Connery although I’m not a die-hard fan of his. Connery was the best until Craig, but Craig is simply a better actor, and the Bond he creates is more believable and interesting to me.

Flame away if you think my input is even worth it.


25 posted on 11/04/2012 8:56:50 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: dagogo redux

Yes, you nailed it. More thoughts

http://n007.thegoldeneye.com/two_views_casino_royale.html


26 posted on 11/04/2012 8:58:54 AM PST by Perdogg (Vote like the US Constitution depends on it - it does!!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; Perdogg; GSP.FAN; GOPsterinMA

You didn’t like Sean Bean in Goldeneye?

This Bardem villain seems like a psycotic version.

He and Famke were good.

As I’ve said before I think Jonathan Pryce was too hammy.

I think Sophie M worked as a villain, Pierce busting a cap in her was one of his best scenes as Bond. Robert Carlye was boring and it’s too bad, the character had potential, a guy that couldn’t feel pain.

The Korean guy who became a White guy and got into a sword fight in DAD was just funny.

The 2 Craig villains so far were okay but not especially “memorable”. I think that’s why we have a blond Javier Bardem this time, even if he stinks it will probably be memorable.


27 posted on 11/05/2012 4:00:12 AM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; Perdogg; GSP.FAN; NFHale

“You didn’t like Sean Bean in Goldeneye?”

Unmemorable. I remember him more for his small role in Ronin than Goldeneye.

Havier = blehh... Besides, I read the Wiki for Skyfall, so I have no need to $pend. I’ll take those dollar$ and put it towards drugs, gummy bears and KFC. Or buying the DVD of Raising Arizona.

Sophie M = HAWT!

Famke = HOT!

“The Korean guy who became a White guy and got into a sword fight in DAD was just funny.”

That made my brain lose 2.3% of it’s carbon.

SHAWN CONNERY 4EVA!!!


28 posted on 11/05/2012 6:26:20 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (The Glove don't fit, but it's better than a burqa.)
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To: Impy; GOPsterinMA; Perdogg

Sean Bean was OK, but he’s faded so much in my memory that as GOPster said, he’s become unmemorable. I think the female villains are far more stand-outs. Famke’s Xenia Onatopp having an orgasm while gunning down people was a jaw-dropper. It seems like you can do things with female villains now you couldn’t get away with in a male villain today.

I don’t think I could’ve shot Sophie, she’s just too hot (and to quote her character to Bond, I’d miss her too much). Seeing her in the scenes with the “evil” Carlyle, it was just embarrassing. She was far more sadistic to the man responsible for her Stockholm Syndrome than he could portray as a menacing character (indeed, you almost felt sorry for him - although perhaps that brought an added dimension to him, I’m not sure that’s something I wanted to see in him... made him too weak). Another problem with Carlyle is that he has such a working-class guy persona, it’s like you’d run into someone like him at your local bar/pub. I prefer the bigger-than-life types.

I know a lot of folks loathe “A View To A Kill”, but I think Christopher Walken was magnificent as Zorin. He’s probably the last to portray an old-fashioned villain. If they had cut some of the silly stuff out, sacked the pretty-but-vacant Tanya Roberts in favor of beefing up the role of the gorgeous Fiona Fullerton and replacing a too-old Rog for Timothy Dalton, this could’ve easily become one of the top 3 films in the entire franchise.

As for Javier Bardem, I think it will be singularly impossible for him to top Anton Chigurh. If he was reprising Chigurh (who didn’t die at the end), that would be great.


29 posted on 11/05/2012 8:13:06 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Mrs. Dash...ummm...


30 posted on 11/05/2012 8:36:44 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (The Glove don't fit, but it's better than a burqa.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

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31 posted on 11/05/2012 12:22:43 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (The Glove don't fit, but it's better than a burqa.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

What is your opinion of Jack Vincennes?


32 posted on 11/06/2012 8:15:22 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (The Glove don't fit, but it's better than a burqa.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

From “L.A. Confidential” ? What does that have to do with JB ?


33 posted on 11/06/2012 8:54:31 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

It’s your new name, Jack.


34 posted on 11/06/2012 9:41:20 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (The Glove don't fit, but it's better than a burqa.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

No.


35 posted on 11/06/2012 9:45:51 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Yes. I plan on bombing your FB page later...hehehehehehehehehehehehehehe


36 posted on 11/06/2012 9:52:54 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (The Glove don't fit, but it's better than a burqa.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Um, please don’t. I’m hardly on it and I don’t want to waste my time with cleaning up silly nonsense.


37 posted on 11/06/2012 10:09:07 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Ok Jack, I’ll be nice.

Tell me about Mrs. Dash.


38 posted on 11/06/2012 10:38:49 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (The Glove don't fit, but it's better than a burqa.)
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