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Yeah...that's it...Gates had a 'falling out' with the General. How about his role in the Conway Cabal, Mr. Kaplan? And Gates might have lost Saratoga if it hadn't been for Arnold...and the article makes it sound as if the army ranks swelled because of Gates' presence: nonsense. And Gates ran so fast after his defeat at Camden, that he was laughed at for years about it.

Otherwise, the article is correct.

1 posted on 10/22/2012 6:14:29 AM PDT by Pharmboy
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2 posted on 10/22/2012 6:22:33 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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4 posted on 10/22/2012 6:28:53 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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Rather than fight with Washington at Trenton, Gates decided to journey to Congress instead and lobby for Washington's job.

That sort of backfired.

At Saratoga, Arnold - sent by Washington - ignored Gates, attacked Burgoyne in contravention to Gates' intentions and carried the day.

Gates worked hard to earn his obscurity. Rehabilitating him is even siller than rehabilitating McClellan.

5 posted on 10/22/2012 6:32:34 AM PDT by wideawake
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Granny Gates was a backstabbing political animal whose envy of Washington killed his career. He even tried to lead an officers’ mutiny after Yorktown. He was a petty man. Unlike Nathaniel Greene and Daniel Morgan, Gates deserves to be forgotten.


6 posted on 10/22/2012 6:36:01 AM PDT by Repulican Donkey
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Probably didn’t help that Horatio Gates was English. He wasn’t a ‘native born’ American hero...


8 posted on 10/22/2012 6:36:57 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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Is this another installment of the “National Treasure” series? Trinity church? Gates?


9 posted on 10/22/2012 6:37:25 AM PDT by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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Saratoga - one of the turning points of the revolution that no one really knows about.


10 posted on 10/22/2012 6:41:00 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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Gqates had a falling out with General Washington?? A falling out? I’d say it was more treachery than a falling out! And Granny Gates was Not the victor at Saratoga. Benedict Arnold was.


13 posted on 10/22/2012 6:49:45 AM PDT by pgkdan (A vote for anyone but Romney is a vote for obama. GO MITT!!)
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thxs, for the post ((history lesson :)

14 posted on 10/22/2012 6:51:30 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; w/ different flie$" :^)
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Gates did more to help the British and Tory cause than the American Patriot cause. The New York Times continues to dig itself into an ever deeper hole of false propaganda. How much longer before it succumbs to a fiscal poverty equal to its moral impoverishment?


15 posted on 10/22/2012 6:56:02 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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Thank goodness he finally got kicked out for Green


19 posted on 10/22/2012 7:05:44 AM PDT by chargers fan
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