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MrTeymour 5:29 PM on September 21, 2012

I am appauled at my fellow gun lovers that spew thier garbage before getting all the facts in a case. This lady had many other choices than to shoot this young man. The info I have , that came from a family member of the young man that was shot, reflects that the story written here is a bit mis-leading at best. No where did it mention that she actually missed with the first shot, but she did chase the young man away with that shot. Then she got out of her car and chased him and then shot and killed him. I have a hard time understanding why this would be considered self defense. In my mind, she committed murder or manslaughter at least. It is cases like this one that will destroy the ability of the law abiding citizen to protect ourselves.

So I was right when I said you have her convicted despite what the law says. So where are you any different from those who condemned Zimmerman out of hand? You say she had choices, Zimmerman had choices. She could have retreated, Zimmerman could have retreated. In the end Zimmerman believed he needed to do what he did to protect himself, so did this woman. Nobody had to die in either case. But neither person acted outside of the law as it exists. Yet you applaud one and want to hang the other.

And I'm curious as to your source for information. None of the news reports I've been able to find say anything about her chasing him down and killing him. You say it comes from family members, yet none of them were there, where they?

Thank you for pinging me.

I assume you did so because I repeatedly stated yesterday that, just as FReepers advised with the beginning of the Zimmerman case, we should take caution to wait until the facts come in before drawing conclusions.

If the contents of this anonymous internet comment are true, you've added some excellent information that's damning.

Have you been able to substantiate any of this? I've tried, but haven't found anything in any article, any police statement, any eyewitness statement (well, the driblets in the press), or anywhere else.

As long as anonymous internet comments are being put on the table, should we throw into the mix the one contained in the story you posted yesterday, where a guy says he's known the victim since high school and says the victim 'wasn't a nice guy' and "got into altercations"?

Let's keep following this to see what additional facts come forward (and I guess, if you want, additional anonymous internet comments). I want to know what the cameras show, what the eyewitnesses actually said, and the circumstances of that second shot. Like you, I only see one bullet hole in the windows - and the victim had two bullet holes in his chest. I don't see how the best $10 lawyer in Ponca City can explain that to me.

No where did it mention that she actually missed with the first shot, but she did chase the young man away with that shot. Then she got out of her car and chased him and then shot and killed him.

If this is true, and she shot him down as he was running away, then it's at least Second Degree Murder.

No where did it mention that she actually missed with the first shot, but she did chase the young man away with that shot. Then she got out of her car and chased him and then shot and killed him.

Obviously false.

If it went down as described, it's an open and shut case of murder — first or second depending on the jury's estimate of her degree of premeditation. Obviously, the witnesses would have told the police, the body would have been in the wrong place, etc. She would have been hauled away under arrest.

Two shots in him is not significant. Chasing him down as he retreated most definitely is.