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To: djf; All

Since Jesus treated women with respect, and actually talked with them...(unlike the rabbis and respected teachers of the day (and Muslim Imams today)) it wouldn’t surprise me if some of the Apostles grumbled about that... However, the New Testament texts—again, THE very earliest accounts (by far) we have of Jesus, don’t tell us anything about that.

I think it’s hard to imagine what a superstar Jesus was...even 100 or 200 years after he was gone. SUCH a very popular figure that the Gnostic cults picked him up as their own (even while bitterly disparaging the original Apostles).

It really is a fanciful conspiracy theory though that essential facts of his life (like the idea that he was married) were edited out post-Nicea (AD 325)...as we have the canon (list of the books) intact as early as the Muratorian fragment (ca. AD 170) and, it’s been said that THE ENTIRE New Testament could be reconstructed from the works of the early Church Fathers (AD 125-450) since they quoted the NT books at length.

Ockham’s razor would suggest—rather than a dark conspiracy of powerful (though at the time persecuted and often executed) bishops editing out things in Jesus’ life—things like Jesus as a boy turning clay pigeons into real ones...or...his having a wife... really were exactly what they appear to be: Writings by groups OPPOSED TO CHRISTIANITY who were spuriously claiming Jesus as their own.

The New Testament is an authentic eye-witness testimony, other texts—from hundreds of years later, are not.

End of story.


84 posted on 09/19/2012 2:40:01 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (reality is analog, not digital...)
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To: AnalogReigns

Well, afaik none of the Greek texts pre-date about 90AD, so they ARE NOT eyewitness testimony.

My mention of the Peshito version agreeing with the Greek translations was in support of the idea that there was little editing of the Greek versions we came to know. The four or five Peshito versions date from the 100-115 AD timeframe, so there was little time for diversion/editing.

I never said that a mention of Jesus’s wife was edited out. What I said was SOME THINGS were probably edited, and it would be very interesting to know the who/what/where of it.

No need to be rude. If you chose to look at things like a good student, you can’t let your personal opinions/theocracy get in the way.


85 posted on 09/19/2012 2:58:56 PM PDT by djf (Political Science: Conservatives = govern-ment. Liberals = givin-me-it.)
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