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To: fabian; Colofornian; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; smvoice; HarleyD; HossB86; ..

He may be a conservative, and understand some valid principles and say some good things, but he is not simply a conservative, but a spiritual leader with as gospel, and thus i cannot join the adulation of this hypnotist- turned-psychologist, with his often rude manner.

Masters basically approaches Christianity from a mystical viewpoint, and provides little doctrinal material in the classic Christian sense. Masters sees being “ born again” as a process of growth, resulting in ceasing to sin. (www.fhu.com/statement-of-belief4.html)

Christian salvation is seen being a process of God’s work reclaiming the corrupted hearts, minds, and consciences of individuals who repent of their weakness. His teaching and emphasizes individual conscience and adherence to life principles, mainly from a psychological or philosophical perspective, and for which he promotes his meditation techniques, which apparently involves looking through the middle of the forehead, as though one was sitting inside their head and looking out. (www.drlwilson.com/articles/meditation.htm).

Masters affirms that Jesus of Nazareth is the only begotten Son of God and Messiah, yet he denies the historical Christian Trinity. (www.fhu.com/statement-of-belief1.html), and instead stated that “one of the biggest curses in religion Christendom is the false idea that Jesus is God; it is imperative that you not believe that Jesus is God.”

Masters states he takes the Bible literally as the word from God, versus the word of God, nor the Bible itself as holy, as consistent with his mystical viewpoint he distinguishes between the words and understanding, so that the standard for truth is not the Bible, but what the Bible awakes one in his own heart. Masters explains that he meditates in a special way so as to detach his conscious spirit from his imagination and thereby attains reality. This is criticized as being overly subjective, as is Masters’ claim that he does not break any of the laws of God, and that being born again being a result of growth from Divine sperm (metaphorically) being implanted. (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/waltermartindotcom/2011/06/05/walter-martin-takes-on-roy-masters.mp3 Walter Martin Takes on Roy Masters], audio debate, 1980, 9-10, 34-43, 47-50 minute periods)

Moreover, the type of adulation “above that which is written” (1Cor. 4:) exhibited by some of his followers is disconcerting, and Masters also once boasted, “I could get people to die for me any day. I’ve got more power over people than Adolph Hitler and Jim Jones combined, because I’m smarter. I know how to push people’s buttons” (Los Angeles Times, 12/3/78; http://www.watchman.org/cults/newdimen.htm).

Roy Masters, founder and director, was born Reuben Obermeister to a Jewish family in London, England. At age 15 he worked at his uncle’s diamond-cutting factory in Brighton after his father died.

As a young boy he became interested in hypnotism. He added to his hypnotism techniques after studying African witchdoctor rites during his apprenticeship at South African diamond mines when he was 18.

He came to America in 1949, at age 21, to lecture on diamonds. He legally changed his name to Roy Masters in 1954 (yet never acquired American citizenship) and eventually became a professional hypnotist claiming he could “save people by teaching them self-sufficiency meditative hypnosis.” More: http://www.watchman.org/cults/roymstrs.htm
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16 posted on 09/17/2012 6:26:40 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute actual sinner, + trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

His own words...

http://www.fhu.com/statement-of-belief1.html


17 posted on 09/17/2012 6:46:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: daniel1212

What you did was a very liberal thing...hit piece. A good example of that is your quote here..”Moreover, the type of adulation “above that which is written” (1Cor. 4:) exhibited by some of his followers is disconcerting, and Masters also once boasted, “I could get people to die for me any day. I’ve got more power over people than Adolph Hitler and Jim Jones combined, because I’m smarter. I know how to push people’s buttons” (Los Angeles Times, 12/3/78; http://www.watchman.org/cults/newdimen.htm).";
What you left out was Roy was using that as an example of how he knows how to use the mind control techniques of evil people, but NEVER would. It was merely said in that light to explain that he knows the info about the darkness, and you are actually using that to a degree with your judgment of a very good man. That is all I will say and it is religious hypocrites like you that give Christianity a false name. God bless though! You don’t know how much you need it.


18 posted on 09/17/2012 7:26:38 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter"you min)
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To: daniel1212
Masters affirms that Jesus of Nazareth is the only begotten Son of God and Messiah, yet he denies the historical Christian Trinity. (www.fhu.com/statement-of-belief1.html), and instead stated that “one of the biggest curses in religion Christendom is the false idea that Jesus is God; it is imperative that you not believe that Jesus is God.”

1 John 2:22-23 22 Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. 23 No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also.

That settles the issue right there.

Jesus was pretty clear Himself about His relationship with God. This guy, Masters, is deceived and a deceiver. He is an antichrist.

Feely good stuff doesn't get you salvation. Repentance and confession and the new birth do.

168 posted on 09/19/2012 8:55:10 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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