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07/02/2012 10:36:03 PM PDT by
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CO2 stays in the air for 100 years?
That is news to me.
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Amino Acids in Meteorites says:
Hey wait a second. Manmade co2 emissions have gone down and yet it was 118° in Kansas? Theres something wrong with global warming science!
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07/02/2012 10:51:04 PM PDT by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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No the the sky is falling AGW proponents simply could not let clean natural gas from frac wells go unchallenged lowered CO2 will never do must maintain alarm at all costs even if it means cooking the books and fibbing.
The NEW attack is that natural gas from shale fracing is WORSE THAN COAL! Yep Horwath and Ingraffea from Cornell published a doom and gloom report claiming exactly that claiming that the frac process releases large amounts of methane to the atmosphere and that all that methane a greenhouse gas more potent than CO2 actually makes natural gas from frac processing worse than coal when it comes to CAGW.
It would be nice to say they conveniently ignore some very key facts but the truth is they carefully crafted their report to ignore and avoid important relevant facts that disprove their claim. Worse they are supported and cheered on by Gas Land filmmaker and pro scare monger Josh Fox he of the burning faucets videos.
The most important is that while methane is more potent as a greenhouse gas it also has a very short residence time in the atmosphere compared to CO2. A number of others who appear to actually be real scientists who care about truth and accuracy as opposed to advocacy masquerading as science all thoroughly refuted.
It was shown their claims largely ignored that most methane is burned off at the well head never reaching the atmosphere. Data from 90,000 wells show they dramatically overstate hard data reduced their claims by half. And that methane is a valuable commodity that is increasingly being captured at the well head.
Paulina Jaramillo of Carnegie Mellon University is an expert on carbon footprint. She went back and studied the issue and found that even with high rates of methane leaking out, shale gas was still better than coal.
Even the geology department at Cornell thinks their claims are bordering on silly. Larry Cathos and his colleagues authored a rebuttal paper that showed these claims were vastly overstated
AND as noted, they criticized the improper use of or ignoring of time scales. CO2 stays in atmosphere for 100+ years methane a decade or less. Even if the methane had 100% of the global warming equivalency as the CO2 it reduces it is still a vast improvement. Ten years later it is gone while the CO2 it replaces is around 100 years or more.
This is IMO simple intellectual fraud. Ignoring clear facts to promote and advocate for the cause.
Ingraffea says their scientific fraud doesnt matter:
There is the smoking gun right there. You know theyre lying that they are not scientists but simple blind advocates, when they ignore the fraud and excuse it with unsuppoorted and ridiculous scare mongering.
Bring in the Clowns .
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