Report: Deportations hit record number

poliico ^ | | 7/22/11 7:30 AM EDT | ELIAS GROLL

[RC one]

The Obama administration deported nearly 400,000 people last year – a record – with the number driven up by those tossed out for traffic violations and drunken driving, according to a report on Friday.

The focus on ousting those with relatively minor offenses raises questions about whether the administration has lived up to its promise to focus on deporting the most dangerous offenders, the Associated Press says.

During the fiscal year that ended in Sept. 30, 393,000 people were deported, and half of those were considered criminals. Of the criminal deportations, 7 percent were based on traffic violations, 23 percent were drug violations and 14 percent were drunken driving violations, according to an analysis by the AP.

[RC one]

according to Huff post, Obama has deported around 1.5 million mexicans in his first term. Bush deported about the same number-in 8 years. Are Mexicans really going to be fooled by Obama's recent kinder gentler election year approach?

[ClearCase_guy]

Obama is sooooooo tough on illegal immigration!! Those states like Arizona don’t know what they’re talking about! If we elect Republicans, this country will be flooded with illegal aliens taking jobs away from Americans! Only Barack Obama has the toughness to deal with this problem!!

[VeniVidiVici]

with the number driven up by those tossed out for traffic violations and drunken driving, according to a report on Friday. The focus on ousting those with relatively minor offenses raises questions about whether the administration has lived up to its promise to focus on deporting the most dangerous offenders,

That's right, Politico. Let's keep those illegal alien drunken drivers. Maybe extend an olive branch to the illegal alien child molesters too? Morons.

[RC one]

It’s all convoluted, I know. but the numbers do speak for themselves. Obama wants to pander to Mexicans this election year by appearing immigrant friendly. Now, I don’t want to pander to Mexicans particularly but I do want Mexicans to know that Obama has not been their friend over the course of most of his first term. He has, in fact, conned them and he’s trying to do it again.

[mass55th]

"...with the number driven up by those tossed out for traffic violations and drunken driving..."

All except for Obama's Uncle Oingo Boingo.

[ebersole]

And yet according to the latest teleprompting message to come from Odumbo’s mouth, his administration will be allowing “law abiding” illegal invaders who broke our laws as children to stay in the country and will grant them work visas. And next level of pandering will be to give them legal voting rights.

[ScottfromNJ]

“Obama has deported around 1.5 million mexicans in his first term”

Or, 1.5 million illegals deported in spite of Obama thanks to existing laws. If he had his way would they really be deported? Just look at his interference with Arizona for an answer.

[RC one]

the same laws were on the books during Bush’s 8 years and yet he only deported 1.5 million Mexicans over an 8 year period. We all knew where GW stood on this issue.

[skeeter]

The EO he issued today was no con and will result in millions of illegals being normalized. The bast*rd is pulling the stops out now.

[RC one]

It’s part of the same con actually and that’s why we need to remind Latinos that Obama has already deported 1.5 million Hispanics. It’s the look in my right hand and ignore my left hand con. Look at what I’m doing for Latinos so you don’t see what I have already done to Latinos.

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

Actually, I’m okay with this. It sensibly divides illegals into the good ones and the bad ones, and emphasizes booting out the bad ones.

It has the same rationale as putting criminals in prison, not just as punishment, but so they cannot continue to abuse the citizenry. For every nasty criminal illegal alien that is booted out, everyone benefits.

While those left behind are still a little troublesome, it is only a fraction of the nuisance created by the bad ones.

[wiggen]

Deporting because he’s trying to prove to states and anyone that will listen that the feds are doing their job and no state laws are needed. Never think he’s doing something for other than political gain.

[skeeter]

There are no good vs bad illegals. There are illegals, period.

If we accept their presence then we have no country and nothing else will matter.

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

It’s best to embrace the notion of triage. We simply cannot deport all illegals at once, unless America is turned into such an insane police state that it would be effectively national martial law, with Obama and Holder in charge.

So to be realistic, we have to use the law of diminishing returns. For example:

1) The vast majority of illegal alien entry comes on just a half dozen major corridors. Those corridors could be quickly and cheaply blocked by fencing, and it would keep out about 40% of illegal entries. Highly cost effective, so it should be done *first*.

2) A large number of illegals would still be able to displace around those sections of fence, so patching these areas with fence as well could prevent another 20% from entry (60% of the original total).

3) However, from here things get much harder on both sides. Degree of difficulty in crossing skyrockets because the terrain outside the corridors is increasingly impassable by any but the most determined; but the amount of fence, and the costs also skyrocket. It has become cost *ineffective* compared to other techniques—so your focus has to shift to them.

4) Here you have a lot of choices. First and foremost convincing the illegals already here to return to Mexico. But this also needs the law of diminishing returns.

For this reason, the emphasis needs to be on kicking out the violent, repeat offenders first, and worrying about the petty offenses later. Because every day the violent, repeat offenders stay here they are killing, raping, and robbing US citizens. So the priority is getting rid of them.

Laws like Arizona’s SB 1070 are a very effective way for the typical illegal alien to “voluntarily deport”, so is e-Verify, and so are other techniques. Thus they are the most cost effective.

[RC one]

It’s like the abusive husband that spent the last three years beating his wife and then all of a sudden promises to stop when she finally files for divorce. Should she just forget about the past three years and take him at his word that he isn’t going to start beating her again after the threat of divorce has passed? Obama deported 1.5 million Mexicans in 3 years. George Bush deported 1.5 million Mexicans in 8 years. The Latino community needs to do the math here. The GOP has always been weak on Latino immigration because they like the cheap labor. The Dems have always been at odds with issue because hispanic immigrants compete with blacks and unions. Conservatives just want the constitution to be followed on the matter i.e. they don’t want non-citizens voting and they want laws enforced as written.

[skeeter]

In addition to immediately deporting those who get into ANY kind of legal difficulty, remove the government cheese and execute a little inland workplace enforcement and the problem solves itself. Its not hard.

But honestly, I'd be satisfied right now if our "leaders" stopped offering them yet more incentives to slip the border.

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

When you say “inland”, don’t think too far inland. I’ve heard some interesting proposals about the US building a medium-maximum security facility just north of the border, with a *companion* facility just south of the border, to deal with some unusual problems.

To start with, it would be the national illegal internment facility. If they are identified as illegal from Mexico or central, South America, they are transported there, to the “medium” side. Assuming there are no pending felony charges for them in the US.

All their court hearings and appeals would be taken care of there. This includes not just deportation but bar from reentry, in some cases, which makes returning a serious felony, as well as human trafficking charges, and any number of other things.

Those sent there who agree to “voluntarily repatriate” get a deal like AZ offers right now, a free flight direct to Mexico City, 1600 miles south. (Making them far less likely to ever return. It works.)

Now, the flip side of this is the “Maximum” side of the facility. Mexico is close to crying uncle because of the large number of serious felons the US wants to deport there, who are immediately hired by the cartels as gunmen.

So the “Maximum”, on the US side would be a holding facility for dangerous violent criminals, and held until Mexico was able to “process their paperwork” on the small Mexican side prison. Until then, these dangerous bad men stay under US authority.

A major problem is that Mexican law tends to coddle criminals. No death penalty, and a maximum sentence anyone can be given before they must be released. That is, no life sentences, either.

However, the Mexican side facility also offers something for “humanitarian cases” that the US would allow to apply for US citizenship from there. These would mostly be juveniles who were raised their entire lives in the US, are fully integrated, and are de facto, if not de jure Americans.

Many of these kids have no family in Mexico, no knowledge of Mexico, no resources in Mexico, and would be as helpless as American children sent to a foreign nation where they were completely lost. Basically a death or slavery sentence. Yeah, I can see some humanitarian grounds there.