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To: varyouga; Morgana; little jeremiah; trisham; BykrBayb; DJ MacWoW
I'd probably never get married but this is the typically story from nearly all of my married friends. At least the friends whose wives let them off the leash long enough to speak about it.

Too many women don't even know what they want and are constantly unhappy under any circumstances.

Sure. It's all the woman's fault.

Don't they know that men are perfect?

Sheesh......

54 posted on 05/04/2012 1:40:52 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

Imho, those that have problems establishing and maintaining relationships with the opposite sex often have difficulty seeing them as human beings. Men who spend time with pornography instead of women tend to be detached from them, emotionally and mentally.


55 posted on 05/04/2012 2:51:57 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: metmom; Morgana; little jeremiah; trisham; BykrBayb; DJ MacWoW
“Sure. It's all the woman's fault. Don't they know that men are perfect?”

Nobody is perfect and part of human nature is to never be truly satisfied with one’s current reality. A big part of that is the differences in human sexuality and genetic diversification that will never be truly resolved.

A male’s sexual nature is to attract an endless quantity of genetically diverse, desirable, adoring females all for himself and keep them all satisfied just by being himself. This was selected for because the more females a male impregnates, the more likely his genes will succeed far into the future.

A female’s sexual nature is to bond with that one impossibly perfect, strong, leading male all for herself. This was selected because a female can only be impregnated by one male. By selecting the best male and getting all of his attention, her genes are more likely to succeed.

Also, females encourage genetic diversity in a different manner from males. They are subconsciously attracted to males that are most different from the males in their own family or clan. Since females are vulnerable while pregnant or carrying babies, they evolved to use their sexual power to “tame” such males to protect and provide. This is where “opposites attract” and “nice girls love bad boys” comes from. These traits were selected for because in prehistory, females that bred with males that were most similar to themselves were most likely breeding with a brother or cousin. In those days, if you walked a few miles, the culture of humans living there was completely different from your own. The females that were successful in breeding and “taming” men from other clans were more genetically diverse and had more successful descendants. A lineage with little diversity is very susceptible to disease and defects.

As you see, marriage was essentially a treaty that balanced the impossible and almost opposite desires of both sexes. It allowed people to be mostly satisfied instead of constantly fighting, lying and seeking the impossible.

The treaty became unbalanced when society enabled women to provide everything for themselves and their children without having to consider any man's needs (”...like a fish needs a bicycle”). The treaty became further unbalanced with nearly foolproof birth control and the detachment of reproduction from sexuality. The treaty was burned when no-fault divorce allowed women to take a man's resources and children at a whim.

You now see men who will never trust a woman and never go beyond casual sex. Why commit and put everything on the line for one woman with no incentive to please you? They would rather sleep with an endless variety of skanks/prostitutes and talk with their single friends for human interaction. You now see women who think they don't need men. And on the surface, they are right. They can get rich on their own or fool a rich man into giving them a lifetime paycheck. Then they can get all the smooth-talking boytoys, beach vacations with friends and designer IVF babies they want. Go to any resort and check out the groups of divorced “cougars” going after college guys.

However, we are more than just physical objects or animals. I really feel there was something special and spiritual within the treaty that is marriage. Now it is gone and nomatter how successful we are materially or physically, we will always be fighting each other and truly “alone”...

56 posted on 05/05/2012 1:57:57 PM PDT by varyouga
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