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The GOP Gamble (Vanity)
Self | 4/10/2012 | Self

Posted on 04/10/2012 6:43:31 PM PDT by DustyMoment

I'm not a fan or Mitt Romney and, as the campaign has dragged on, I have become increasingly disenchnted with him. It has become more clear that Mitt Romney is NOT a viable alternative to Obama and, in fact, is more like Obama than he is different.

But, we have known from the outset that Romney was the choice of the establishment Republicans - Michael Steele and the like. As staunch conservatives who believe in the principles of government laid down by the Founding Fathers and memorialized in the Constitution, we believe in the democratic process of selecting our leaders via the state primaries, the national convention and, finally, election day. Those principles, good or bad, right or wrong, have worked successfully in this country for over 200 years.

As they have done in past election cycles, the GOP establishment put their support behind moderate Mitt Romney. Most of us weren't surprised that the establishment Republicans were behind Romney from the start, they have pushed moderate candidates before - Dole, McCain and, to an extent, Bush 43.

Despite the fact that moderate GOP candidates have, generally speaking, not fared well on the national stage, Romney is the choice of the e-GOP. WE believed that Romney could be weaned from the race early with alternative candidates like Bachmann, Santorum, Perry and Gingrich. After all, we have generally been able to find a more viable candidate with broader appeal than the e-GOP's moderate.

This year, however, the e-GOP threw a new wrinkle into the debate when they raised the issue of 'electability'. That topic got many of us thinking and too many of us thought too much. 'Electability' ultimately cost Michelle Bachmann her shot at the convention. It cost Hermain Cain his shot, and Rick Perry his just as it is affecting Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich. Too many of us went to the primaries thinking that we like Bachmann, or Santorum or Cain but Romney is more "electable" so I'll vote for him even though I don't really like what he says, we have to get Obama out of the White House in November.

Between Romney's 'war chest', his negative ads, the e-GOP's backing and the issue of 'electability', we have watched the field of candidates being whittled down. We thought it was set at 4 until today when Rick Santorum 'suspended' his campaign. That left us with a field of 3 - Romney, the e-GOP's candidate, Newt Gingrich who, so far, hasn't been able to gain any traction on Romney and Ron Paul. We know that a lot of the disingenuous, biased media (DBM) and the establishment Republicans have been trying to end the primaries and get "the campaign" in full swing before the conventions this summer so that the Obama attack machine (so-called 'Truth Teams') can begin dismantling Romney before fall and, essentially, hold the election before November.

But, the cynicism of the e-GOP has never been as obvious as it has been this year. This year, we have establishment Republican insiders revealing the strategy of "the inner sanctum". This year, several high level Republicans have made statements that "regardless who the Republican candidate is" everyone will get behind the nominee and support him. In other words, from the outset, the establishment Republicans, Michael Steele, et al, intended to cram Romney down our throats with the idea that, after he became the nominee, we would all drop our objections to him and go to the polls in November like good like robots and cast our votes for him, even though some of us my not like the guy and don't believe his platform. Like Obama, Romney, the "Etch-A-Sketch" candiate is an unknown factor who cannot be relied on to select and run a truly conservative administration. He is a former democrat and a noted RINO and he is not the candidate that many of us would choose.

But, the e-GOP is gambling on all of us dropping pur objections to Romney after the convention and "getting behind" him. But, what if we call their bluff? What if, instead of selecting Romney as our candidate on the ballot this November, we don't vote for ANYONE for president? I think it is a foregone conclusion at this point that if Romney, the 'electbility' candidate becomes the GOP nominee, Obama will see a second term in office. Perhaps that was the plan all along. We KNOW that Obama in a second term is going to thoroughly destroy what is left of this country. All Romney will do is continue what Obama has started, but he will continue the destruction of America at a slower pace.

When we go to the polls in November, rather than dance to the e-GOP's tune and cast our votes for Romney, we can send a message to the RNC that we are a force to be reckoned with and our voices will be heard. We don't have to vote for a candidate we don't like or believe. We can stand up and be counted by voting FOR America, and NOT for those who don't believe in the America our Founders created.


TOPICS: AMERICA - The Right Way!!
KEYWORDS: election; gop; politics; romney
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1 posted on 04/10/2012 6:43:36 PM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: DustyMoment

Romney is the suicide vest on the body of the GOP.


2 posted on 04/10/2012 6:49:07 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: DustyMoment
I'm not a fan or Mitt Romney and, as the campaign has dragged on, I have become increasingly disenchnted with him. It has become more clear that Mitt Romney is NOT a viable alternative to Obama and, in fact, is more like Obama than he is different.

That's BS and if Bork Obunga is elected to a second term, there will not be any pieces left lying around for anybody more conservative than Mitt Romney to try to pick up or put back together four years or twelve years later. I assume that's why Mark Levin has indicated that he is supporting Romney at this point.

3 posted on 04/10/2012 6:51:10 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: DustyMoment
If you are planning on voting for no one, I would suggest a better long term strategy plan instead: vote Green Party.

Yes I know that the Green Party is opposed to everything that is right and just. I know that whoever they choose will be a reprehensible person.

However, if the Green Party gets 5% of the popular vote they will become an official party as far as the US Government is concerned. That will mean that they can demand to participate in presidential debates. That means they can get some funding from the US Government. However, sickening that prospect might be, it will allow them to pose something of a threat to the left flank of the Democrat Party.

Splitting the leftist vote is about the only thing we can hope for out of this election with Romney as the GOP candidate.

If your state is blue, vote Green!

If you're planning on voting 'None of the Above', vote for the party that is Always Wrong.

4 posted on 04/10/2012 6:52:09 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: DustyMoment

Mike Steele is not an Establishment Republican ~ in fact, after he presided over one of history’s greatest electoral triumphs the Republican Establishment FIRED Mike and brought in Priebus ~ who really is a hardcore Mittbot!


5 posted on 04/10/2012 6:52:54 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: DustyMoment

Willard, the White Zero.


6 posted on 04/10/2012 6:53:59 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: varmintman
Mitt can still drop out of the race. It's time for Republicans to run real Republicans for office ~ Mitt doesn't quite cut it.

BTW, the difference between Mitt and Obama is much more like the difference between Stalin and Trotsky when you get right down to it. Neither one of these guys has core values that match those of your typical American.

7 posted on 04/10/2012 6:55:37 PM PDT by muawiyah
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Better yet, let’s just vote for zero, that’ll show ‘em. If zero is re-elected, this country will never recover. It will suck and only be a memory. At that point, an Amerika under zero can go straight to hell, it will go the way of nazi Germany.
So, go ahead with FUMR, and we can all agree with ‘rev’ Wright when he said God Damn America.


8 posted on 04/10/2012 6:56:41 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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To: DustyMoment

The GOP-e knows that conservatives live on the Republican Plantation as surely as Blacks live on the Democrat Plantation.

They aren’t willing to stand up and object to being taken for granted. They aren’t willing to leave.

Both groups are pitiful slaves.

As long as they live in fear (and if you listen, it is fear that is driving conservatives to tell us we must support Willard),
hoping for a Reagan once every hundred years when the stars align, and suffering for the rest of the century, it will continue.

These conservatives pretend to be voting for conservatives, but create their own destiny by accepting the abuse because of their fear.
The Plantation owners have no worry that conservatives will go elsewhere. They own you because of your fear. Willard has abused
conservative values throughout his whole career and in this primary season.

I’m done voting as a slave of the RINO-Plantation. FUMR. FUGOP-e.

Now that I left the Plantation, my vote must be earned. It must be earned by conservative candidates. It will not be given to baby-killers,
gay marriage supporters or RINOmney - but I repeat myself.


9 posted on 04/10/2012 7:00:11 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I wouldnÂ’t vote for Romney for dog catcher if he was in a three way race against Lenin and Marx!)
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To: DustyMoment

Anytime I start feeling the pressure of ‘not wasting my vote’ or ‘anyone but Obama’, I just play this short four seconds... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhx8e9j7r0w


10 posted on 04/10/2012 7:02:07 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: DustyMoment
That topic got many of us thinking and too many of us thought too much. 'Electability' ultimately cost Michelle Bachmann her shot at the convention. It cost Hermain Cain his shot, and Rick Perry his just as it is affecting Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich. Too many of us went to the primaries thinking that we like Bachmann, or Santorum or Cain but Romney is more "electable" so I'll vote for him even though I don't really like what he says, we have to get Obama out of the White House in November.

LOL, no we didn't. Virtually none of us here weighed electability and ended up voting for Romney.

The conservative base and grass roots mostly voted for other candidates, there just aren't enough of us - AND we didn't put up a compelling enough alternative to attract moderates and conservative minded people that don't pay much attention (which is a LOT of people).

Bachmann blew up her own campaign screeching at Perry over the HPV thing. She just came across terribly un-presidential and it destroyed her. Cain couldn't defend his personal indiscretions, Perry couldn't communicate well enough to be successful at the national level (the debates proved this). Ron Paul is a Libertarian and will never get anywhere in the Republican party due to his far left foreign and defense policy views. Santorum was a better candidate than expected, but still could only appeal to social conservatives once it became clear he wanted to talk about things like contraception being "not okay". I like Newt and have supported him, but I guess the things many of us like about him are just not appealing to enough people. That's just the problem, conservatives, base voters and grass roots supported all manner of different candidates but could never rally to one or even agree on a consensus candidate - and worse, no conservative candidate could appeal to the lower information voters that are inclined to vote Republican.

11 posted on 04/10/2012 7:14:19 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: DustyMoment
But, the e-GOP is gambling on all of us dropping pur objections to Romney after the convention and "getting behind" him. But, what if we call their bluff? What if, instead of selecting Romney as our candidate on the ballot this November, we don't vote for ANYONE for president?

I think that already happened. Like four years ago...

12 posted on 04/10/2012 7:18:38 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 32 days away from outliving Phil Hartman)
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To: kingu

Listen, we have 2 bad choices, I get it. But really, this is like a choice between Hitler and Mussolini. C’mon, we know what to do. Zero is a truly evil man; don’t put anything past him. If given a chance, zero could and would indeed imprison, torture and yes kill and commit genocide if given the chance. Zero does have to personality characteristics that in the ‘right’ situation, could lead to evil acts unprecedented in this country. I don’t like mittens, but I don’t think that he would round up conservatives and put them in a FEMA camp.
Waiting for 2016 is just whistling past the graveyard.


13 posted on 04/10/2012 7:21:44 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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To: DustyMoment

Romney was not my choice, and, to me, he was the worst of the group that ran for the GOP nomination, but...

It’s over, and now, we have to support him, even if reluctantly, because, at the end of the day, he’s many times better than the destroyer-in-chief now living at the White House.

So, I will not sit home hoping for the best, and I will not sit home in protest of what the GOP gave us, and I will not wait till 2016 to try to rescue this country. Now is the time to work to get rid of Obama via our votes. We don’t have a choice, and voting for a third party candidate won’t give us what we want. It’s time for Obama to go, and voting for the worst that “our” party gives us, is much better than allowing the worst of presidents ever to continue destroying the country.


14 posted on 04/10/2012 7:27:50 PM PDT by adorno
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It’s over, and now, we have to support him, even if reluctantly, because, at the end of the day, he’s many times better than the destroyer-in-chief now living at the White House.

No we don't.

We don't have to vote for the Crypto-Communist Obama or his 2nd Cousin, the lying, Left-Wing, Progressive Liberal Mitt Romney.
15 posted on 04/10/2012 7:34:43 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: adorno

This has been my thinking for the last month or so. There are those that diametrically oppose our thinking though. I respect all thoughts, but at the end of the day, I am so fearful for my country, my children and grandchildren that I can not let this President destroy what is left. To be quite honest, this whole think sucks!


16 posted on 04/10/2012 7:40:23 PM PDT by marygam ((Hurry November 2012, we might not make it))
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To: SoConPubbie

If I can’t vote FOR someone (and it looks like I can’t in this Presidential cycle). . .

I vote AGAINST someone.

This year I will vote against Obama. Not a difficult decision for me.


17 posted on 04/10/2012 8:05:23 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: DustyMoment

Conservatives have nobody to blame but themselves.

Not-Romney after not-Romney was shot down. Often this was because conservatives turned on them for not being sufficiently conservative on one issue or another.

The perfect is the enemy of the good. Insisting that we must have a perfect not-Romney had a good deal to do with ensuring that we wound up with Romney.

Insisting that we must have a perfect not-Obama may play a role in ensuring this Nov. that we wind up with Obama for another four years.


18 posted on 04/10/2012 8:07:46 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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No, you don’t have to vote for “Obama’s cousin”, but, every vote not cast against Obama, puts Obama one step closer to staying in the White House and becoming “your president”, or the person that, you helped elect.


19 posted on 04/10/2012 8:13:09 PM PDT by adorno
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To: grumpygresh
Zero is a truly evil man; don’t put anything past him.

Obama's the ultimate evil man - a lazy one, who reads what's put on his teleprompters, just so long as nothing interferes with his multi-billion dollar vacations, or his lavish humpday extravaganzas at the White House, which seem to have dropped off the reporting radar, even among conservative outlets. This is a White House of the bureaucrats, for the bureaucrats. And I can't think of a single position by those entrenched liberals that Romney himself hasn't put forward and enacted as a governor.

On the other hand, Romney is a very hard worker who takes a hands on approach to everything. He works actively with liberals to forward their shared agenda. He appoints liberal activist judges, and lauded the choice of the first Latina to the SCOTUS. I can think of nothing that has been passed under the Obama administration that Romney would have the slightest quibble with, other than if he was at the helm, it would have been done better.

Obama drifts along with the Democrat party, Romney would actively lead it. Obama barely campaigns for liberals, and when he does, it is usually so late and so offhand, that it never affects the race. Romney would be in there at the start, and throw his full support behind any RINO who would back his mandate driven agenda.

If I have a choice between an evil lazy man, and an evil driven man, I'll choose the lazy man. Least those around me could get the balls to go into insurrection against someone with a (D) after their name. The same can't be said for someone with an (R).

All of this, of course, is mere speculation. Newt is still in the race, and I plan on continuing to campaign for him as hard as I can to unseat Romney before the convention. The message MUST be sent on the road there - Romney is NOT our choice.

20 posted on 04/10/2012 8:13:41 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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