Fast-growing Flashback Botnet Includes Over 600,000 Macs, Malware Experts Say

PCWorld ^ | Apr 5, 2012 | Lucian Constantin

[dennisw]

Thanks for the reminder not to touch Apple products with a ten foot pole. Let the gays, the tragically hip, the vain, the young skulls full of mush buy those overpriced ridiculousities

[dennisw]

if you put java on it, you get your problem. So the issue is java. I suppose that too fine a point for most to bother with. 

So I can run Java on my homebuilt quad-core w 8GB ram PC and Apple users cannot? I spent a grand total of $160 last Christmas on memory, motherboard and CPU while Apple buyers (read suckers) pay thousands for machines that will get infected if they run Java. What a scam

[dayglored]

> ...so far, none of the 600,000 infected have reported they have been infected. Strange, don’t you think?

There are undoubtedly SOME infected machines. Might be in the hundreds or even thousands. Over half a million? How is that number generated? By Russian anti-virus "Doctor Web"'s Marketing Department with a dart board, most likely.

Is there a botnet? Well, let's wait a little while and see.

I doubt it. I think this is another case of typical anti-virus bullshit marketing, taking a known small problem and trumpeting it as though it's the End Of The World As We Know It.

In a month or two, we'll know. The Apple Haters can show me the headlines... THEN. Until then, I call FUD too.

[dayglored]

Hey Dennis:

> "the gays, the tragically hip, the vain, the young skulls full of mush"

> "Apple buyers (read suckers)"

You're entitled to your opinion. But hurling personal insults at other FReepers is not permitted. Why not cool it and just discuss the topic, instead of trolling? It's not like you're making your point any better for all the crap names you throw around.

[moehoward]

"if you put java on it, you get your problem. So the issue is java."

Exactly. This 600,000 number is more inflated than Obama's "jobs created" numbers. Anyone buying into this handwringing probably also believe NBC's Zimmerman tape is the real deal.

The conditions that have to be in place for an infection to even be possible, might apply to a small fraction of users. And because the non-Admin variant causes so much system instability it would be discovered quickly and takes mere seconds to eradicate.

Now that Apple is the overwhelming machine of choice, at some point we might actually get a bug to worry about, but this ain't it.

[itsahoot]

. 50,000,000 users who will have to think twice before posting the ‘Get a Mac’ line on every computer thread.

Make that 59,999,999.

[itsahoot]

pay thousands for machines that will get infected if they run Java. What a scam

Yep, unlike your machine which is totally invulnerable, in fact you can run millions of free viri and trojans at no extra cost to you. Sigh..... if only I could do that on my Mac.

[antiRepublicrat]

Thanks for the reminder not to touch Apple products with a ten foot pole.

So after seven months Flashback, the first ever successful Mac trojan (which we all admitted was going to come eventually), has managed to infect 600,000 Macs, and that's a reason not to get a Mac.

Let's see how it has been in your world. It only took about a week for Code Red to hit almost 400,000 Windows machines running IIS -- and IIS wasn't even very popular back then, on a few million servers at most.

Over the last decade, it's been far safer to run a Mac.