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Please, no comments about how you or someone you know was saved by a test. First, it's almost impossible to prove or disprove. The issues surrounding testing the healthy and the idea of prevention are not as straightforward as most folks believe. All I ask is that people keep an open mind.
1 posted on 03/15/2012 8:53:42 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Pining_4_TX

You can never be over tested. A good diagnostician is your best friend be it a cold or cancer.. communication is key..


2 posted on 03/15/2012 8:59:03 PM PDT by goseminoles
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Meh... It's not like I'm going to take chemo or submit to anything other than emergency surgery (If I'm not awake) anyway.

If I can't figure out what is broke or bleeding, I'll just make right with Jesus, and go from there.

I lived through one bad time... never, ever again. I was "THIS" close. And now, eventually, I gotta do it all over again.

/johnny

3 posted on 03/15/2012 9:04:09 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Pining_4_TX
"Please, no comments about... I ask is that people keep an open mind"

Um.


5 posted on 03/15/2012 9:07:50 PM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Some commonly held beliefs about Prostate Cancers (PC):

Most PC are slow growing, one of the slowest growing of all cancers.

Your chances of having a PC already are aprox (age-20)%
So if you are 60, there is a 40% chance of a PC already in you. Small tumors are difficult to find with DRE. PSA is a better tool.

For men over 60, with PC, you will most likely die from something other than your PC.

As I said these are only beliefs. Your urologist is best qualified to make diagnosis.


7 posted on 03/15/2012 9:11:13 PM PDT by entropy12 (Republicans do not hate, that is a monopoly of democrats.)
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“The truth is, the fastest way to get heart disease, autism, glaucoma, diabetes, vascular problems, osteoporosis or cancer ... is to be screened for it.”

I have said this for years.

That and the lowering and lowering of levels of what “is sick” will put you in the sick category faster than you can turn your head.


9 posted on 03/15/2012 9:17:32 PM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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"Please, no comments about how you or someone you know was saved by a test."

OK - I won't tell you the story.

All I'll say is that since I had one 22 years ago I will never miss a scheduled date for a colonoscopy.

I have also told every one of my friends who is over 40 that they should have this test - in its full colon form - not just the sigmoid exam.
12 posted on 03/15/2012 9:27:38 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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The truth is, the fastest way to get heart disease, autism, glaucoma, diabetes, vascular problems, osteoporosis or cancer ... is to be screened for it.

Right, right. Because if you don't know that you have a medical condition, you don't have it. Much better to let heart disease or diabetes progress until they're impossible to ignore and either far more difficult or impossible to treat. Makes perfect sense.

What nonsense. This drive to remedy the dreaded problem of "overdiagnosis" - otherwise known as good preventive medicine - is not in the best interests of patients. It's being done as a way to control costs - Obama blathered some of this nonsense when he was trying to peddle Obamacare to an unwilling nation.
13 posted on 03/15/2012 9:40:10 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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My SIL’s both went to doctors regularly, they had all the regular tests and both of them ended up with stage 4 cancers, one melanoma and the other advanced breast cancer, both have survived but it was touch and go. So, to me, anecdotally, the tests don’t seem to help because neither were diagnosed until they started having disturbing symptoms.


16 posted on 03/15/2012 10:45:29 PM PDT by tiki
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Genes...it’s all in the genes.

Look at your family history, and adjust accordingly.

One of my grandmothers had colon cancer, so I am screened for that.

The other grandmother had a heart attack at 72, but lived to be 91. She spent 12 days in a nursing home.

Those are the two problems with my genetic history.

If there is a history of cancer, diabetes, heart disease, whatever...be aware, and take care of yourself.


20 posted on 03/16/2012 12:05:13 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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Ahhhh, now it makes sense. It’s the EVIL health care industry.

Or maybe it’s the LAWYERS who sued anybody and everybody to bully doctors into OVER TESTING and now they are recommending UNDER testing.

“How did we get here? Or perhaps, more to the point: Who is to blame? One answer is the health care industry: By turning people into patients, screening makes a lot of money for pharmaceutical companies, hospitals and doctors. The chief medical officer of the American Cancer Society once pointed out that his hospital could make around $5,000 from each free prostate cancer screening, thanks to the ensuing biopsies, treatments and follow-up care. “


28 posted on 03/16/2012 2:45:33 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Its as simple as this:

When private insurance paid the bills, testing was inadequate and never enough.

When the government picks up the tab, they aren’t really necessary.

At least the NYT tells us what the government thinks.


30 posted on 03/16/2012 3:27:10 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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