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Posted on 01/10/2012 6:43:41 AM PST by jrd

Do something good for your country "Do Away with the EPA!"


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1 posted on 01/10/2012 6:43:47 AM PST by jrd
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To: jrd

You first.


2 posted on 01/10/2012 6:46:49 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: jrd

It is rather amazing that no one has thought of this before.


3 posted on 01/10/2012 6:47:12 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: AppyPappy
I agree that the EPA needs to be reigned in hard... but when you start talking about doing away with it, the immediate question then becomes "What will the government try to replace it with?"

So I wouldn't go trying to abolish the EPA without a solid plan.

So what's the plan?

4 posted on 01/10/2012 6:48:34 AM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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"What will the government try to replace it with?"

Newt Gingrich says he would replace it with an "Environmental Solutions Agency". I personally think it should be replaced by common sense. No taxpayer funding required.
5 posted on 01/10/2012 6:53:02 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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6 posted on 01/10/2012 6:54:37 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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Sounds like a good one size fits all plan. It should be applied to the DOE and dept of education as well.


7 posted on 01/10/2012 7:03:48 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Oberon
"What will the government try to replace it with?"

We don't allow the government to replace it with any thing. Any fed agency that is in charge of enviro regs will become just like the EPA given time. The whole matter of Enviro control needs to be handled at the state level. The feds have no authority to impose any of this sh** onto the people.

8 posted on 01/10/2012 7:17:06 AM PST by calex59
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To: Oberon; AppyPappy

So what is the plan? How about follow the Constitution.


9 posted on 01/10/2012 7:21:17 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: calex59

Federal agencies are nothing but parasites that feed and grow while producing nothing. The EPA is the epitome of this.


10 posted on 01/10/2012 7:25:19 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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11 posted on 01/10/2012 7:27:34 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: jrd
EPA, DOE and other agencies should be seriously reigned in and their responsibilities clearly limited and specified.
They should be reduced to oversight committees that can raise warnings and make recommendations, but no authority to enforce or make laws, no SWAT teams etc.
FDA could be made private and maybe function similar to what Underwriter's Laboratories does for electronics.
While we're at it, I'd like to raise a question about DHS.
When Homeland Security was first introduced, it was as a department to make FBI, CIA, the Military and other agencies communicate better with each other.
I don't think it was supposed to become a overarching force of it's own. Thoughts?

12 posted on 01/10/2012 7:28:46 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: 1rudeboy
“We the People” have the power of the internet. how long will it take for one of the Presidential boobs start talking about it.
13 posted on 01/10/2012 7:29:26 AM PST by jrd
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To: cripplecreek
Newt Gingrich says he would replace it with an "Environmental Solutions Agency". I personally think it should be replaced by common sense. No taxpayer funding required.

Well, I would agree with you... I'm as small-L libertarian as they come... but under the system you propose, we had rivers catching on fire back in the '60s and '70s. I (very reluctantly) see the need for some common-sense environmental regulation, if only to keep the air and water clean enough to support life. The trick is doing this without trampling all over individual rights and free enterprise.

14 posted on 01/10/2012 7:30:08 AM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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The trick is doing this without trampling all over individual rights and free enterprise.

Rotsa ruck.
15 posted on 01/10/2012 7:32:12 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Oberon

The idea of killing whole agenices like Education or Energy hides one’s head in the sand as to the school system. Every college, high school and middle school ahs been teaching for 40 years the value of these departments - think of this those 8 year olds are not far from social security - thus it will be a tough sell to the vast majority of people to KILL an agency, but to declare them poorly run and to show they have too much power that is a different issue...one the Tea Party has started and conservatives could build.


16 posted on 01/10/2012 7:45:24 AM PST by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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I don't want to eliminate the EPA. I want the EPA to go after REAL pollution & REAL polluters. Protecting the air, water, & soil is a worthwhile endeavor if common sense is used. It is the zealots in the EPA that must go!

Beyond all the money wasted, businesses stifled, & jobs lost or never created while the EPA dithers over CO2 & climate change, serious pollution problems are left to continue to spoil our environment.

17 posted on 01/10/2012 7:53:03 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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EPA dithers over CO2 & climate change, serious pollution problems are left to continue to spoil our environment.

Care to name some of those "pollution problems"?
18 posted on 01/10/2012 8:01:00 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: cripplecreek
Any major river, lake, or bay in the USA.

The Mississippi is a cesspool of sewage & chemicals, creating a huge dead zone in the Gulf.

Chesapeake Bay is in serious ecological trouble - its seafood industry nearly dead.

Oysters, sensitive to pollution, are in decline all along our coastlines. Have been for many years.

Read the yearly water analysis from your local water provider. The list of chemicals present in the water is long & scary, plus the water stinks. Well water can be worse. Is it any wonder that water filters & bottled water are so popular?

I don't have to quote specious numbers from eco-sites. I live on a river & bay on the Gulf. I can see the results of the pollution for myself. I can smell it in the air. I can taste it. I hear the frequent warnings from local health officials about not eating the fish or swimming in the water.

19 posted on 01/10/2012 8:52:50 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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I don't have to quote specious numbers from eco-sites.

Of course not. You already have the rhetoric down pat.
20 posted on 01/10/2012 9:07:39 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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