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Cecil is someone that I used to see on a daily basis. There are many, many others still costing the taxpayers millions of dollars every year. Even in right now with our city facing a thirty million dollar budget shortfall we are still waiting on these people hand and foot. The other night we went back to one of our regulars three different times. Can we really afford to keep coddling these people?
1 posted on 11/20/2011 9:56:26 AM PST by fireman15
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Didn’t the ULEOs murder a Native about a year ago for walking down the street carving wood? He didn’t cost the city much after that. Might have been Seattle.


2 posted on 11/20/2011 10:01:34 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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so instead of costing taxpayers millions, cecil now only costs them tens of thousands (per year).

In Obamaland, that’s considered “success”


3 posted on 11/20/2011 10:02:35 AM PST by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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I wouldn’t have cared if he died on the street. Sounds harsh, but no one has the right to claim $2 million plus in other people’s money. I’d rather spend the money on feeding those who WANT to live...


4 posted on 11/20/2011 10:03:54 AM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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"Can we really afford to keep coddling these people?"

Build it and they will come. In the '08 campaign Christine Gregoire announced, with great pride, that the state's investment in homeless and dependency was paying off because the number of people being served had gone up over 20% in just 2 years.

5 posted on 11/20/2011 10:04:59 AM PST by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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Looks more like the government AIDED and ABETTED him...


6 posted on 11/20/2011 10:05:46 AM PST by goodnesswins (My Kid/Grandkids are NOT your ATM, liberals! (Sarah Palin))
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Since Dec. 14, 2008, he has lived without alcohol or heroin in a studio apartment at the headquarters of Metropolitan Development Council – known as MDC – on Fawcett Avenue.

Doesn't sound so much like he's sober so much as being in a controlled environment. True sobriety takes will power.
9 posted on 11/20/2011 10:14:41 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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Can we really afford to keep coddling these people?

No.

Try to help them, certainly, but once they've shown they are bent on self destruction, step back and let Darwin take over.

It's a tough choice, IMHO. But the American people can NOT afford to foot the bill for this type of behavior and keep our own families cared for, too.

Not with Big Government sticking its hand in our pockets to foot the bill, anyway!

11 posted on 11/20/2011 10:43:50 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am ~Person~ as created by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as created by the law of Man)
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He looks a bit like Injun Joe

14 posted on 11/20/2011 10:56:14 AM PST by Krankor
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Seattle is trying a different alternative that seems to be working. It purchased a cheap hotel, and confirmed alcoholics can stay in it free of charge instead of living on the street. No effort is made at rehabilitation, and they are given free food, and have an on-call nurse available for routine medical care.

And it saves the taxpayers a LOT of money, costing just a fifth of what it would cost otherwise in emergency services, police and other problems.

Though it would save even more money by providing them with grain alcohol and mixer drinks to lessen stomach damage, they have balked at the idea, as they figure both that the public would not stand for it, and that it would attract more alcoholics from other cities.

Surprisingly, there has been another benefit, in that it has been noted that the alcoholics are drinking less on their own, and have improved nutrition so need less regular medical care on top of much less emergency medical care. The police and emergency rooms are also much happier having to deal with them far less often.

The bottom line is two things. The first is that the public do not enjoy seeing drunks dying in the gutters. The second is the recognition that trying to force alcoholics to not be alcoholics doesn’t work, so it’s better to just minimize the expense.


15 posted on 11/20/2011 10:57:59 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Can we really afford to keep coddling these people?

These are the same people who tell us not to feed the bears in the national parks. Go figure


17 posted on 11/20/2011 11:29:07 AM PST by Figment
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Today, Leading Horse costs the public the same as most other low-income seniors living in subsidized housing on Social Security, Medicaid and food aid.


Okay, so he’s on SS and Medicaid. Did the man ever have a job that entitled him to these benefits? No wonder SS is going broke. Too many that never paid a dime into it are now draining it.

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22 posted on 11/20/2011 12:28:02 PM PST by flatfish
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Alcoholic Indians should be cared for by their own tribes. Indians enjoy the best of both “worlds”. They are treated as separate NATIONS, when it comes to having their own police, laws, casinos, selling cigarettes and booze without state taxes, etc., but when it comes to handouts, they want to dip in our nation’s treasurys. They’re raking in millions with their casinos, and can certainly afford to take care of their own. After all, if you wanna be a nation, then take care of your citizens. The nation next door doesn’t owe it to you.


24 posted on 11/20/2011 2:18:56 PM PST by holyscroller ( Without God, America is one nation under)
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Soooo...his choice to continue drinking....is supposed to allow us to choose to continue to honor his claim on us?


29 posted on 11/21/2011 4:36:14 AM PST by mo
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