[JSDude1]

We’ve all sinned (an “ethical athiest”, or an ethical “christan”, buddist, etc) does not exist. Only Jesus is good-and only He can give His nature to someone to change them; they cannot become “ethical” on their own.

J.S.

[Mrs. Don-o]

I think were referring to different definitions of the word "ethical." "Ethical" does not mean "sinless," it just means having ands adhering toa code of right and wrong. An ethical atheist (e.g. my late father) could be honest, patient, faithful to his wife and good to his children, just in his dealings, humble in his demeanor, and indebted (whether he knows it or not) to a standard of behavior he inherited from his own Christian parents and his (mostly) Christian culture.

His parents, and that culture, are long gone.

God alone is the source of all goodness. And I'm pretty sure my father came to Jesus before he died.