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September 29, 2011 | Self

Posted on 09/28/2011 9:38:31 PM PDT by SMCC1

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To: EyeGuy

It’s called investing in your franchise, and it works!


61 posted on 09/28/2011 11:04:32 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

That is not what I said and you know it. No one wants to take the Yankees money from them.

The Yankees enjoy a huge competitive advantage versus the vast majority of other MLB teams. They don’t even have to be smart about how they spend it the asymmetry is so vast.

Let’s see how the Yankees and Red Sox do with a long overdue Salary Cap in MLB.


62 posted on 09/28/2011 11:07:38 PM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: MacMattico

“It’s called investing in your franchise, and it works!”

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Well of course it does, when your “investing” resources dwarf that of most other teams.

The only thing that saves MLB is the fact that in the short sample size of the Playoffs, just about any team can win out.


63 posted on 09/28/2011 11:09:37 PM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: chesty_puller

Take the pancake off, you’re ok. I am glad the poster made this an open thread. I actually did a search of “baseball” and this thread, named simply “baseball” was the first one. I knew exactly where to go to exult in a great night.


64 posted on 09/28/2011 11:10:49 PM PDT by Defiant (I picked you up when you were down on your knees, will you catch me now I'm falling?)
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To: EyeGuy

There are enough good major league level players in the league that having all of the money in the world doesn’t guarantee you anything. And having money and not using it to improve your team— that would just be stupid.


65 posted on 09/28/2011 11:16:32 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: EyeGuy

Salary Cap or not— tradition, the draw of the pinstripes, a quality front office and staff— the Yankee organization will still be a huge draw for most players.


66 posted on 09/28/2011 11:22:05 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

There are no “guarantees” in anything.

However, high, and to a lesser extent, high moderate payroll teams enjoy ridiculously unfair advantages in MAKING the playoffs. Some teams haven’t sniffed the playoffs in decades. Unreal.

The only explanation as to how MLB is able to survive this travesty is the quasi roll of the dice that is the Playoffs.

Yankee fans would be the first ones to bitch if it was say, the Toronto Blue Jays who decade after decade, rolled out a payroll three to four times that of the Yanks, with the pinstripers perenially finishing at the bottom of the Division BECAUSE of that payroll asymmetry.


67 posted on 09/28/2011 11:27:52 PM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: MacMattico

“Salary Cap or not— tradition, the draw of the pinstripes, a quality front office and staff— the Yankee organization will still be a huge draw for most players.”

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Not to mention, New York marketplace endorsements.

The Yankees SHOULD enjoy the riches of their name brand, just like any successful business.

HOWEVER, this is a competitive game and when it comes to PLAYING the game, the field should be level. That includes the rules of competition which most definitely encompasses assemblage of talent via Payroll.


68 posted on 09/28/2011 11:33:07 PM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: EyeGuy

No love lost between the Phils and the Barves, that’s for sure.

Will be a good series. I hope that Big Roy has a sparkling night out again.

Can you believe he was the 3rd winningest pitcher to never reach the postseason?


69 posted on 09/28/2011 11:51:16 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: EyeGuy
Funny you mention the Blue Jays, I was 7 when the Yankees won the World Series in 1978 and 25 the next time they won. I sat through a few years of Blue Jays fans laughing, saying how great they were after they had won a couple of series in the ‘80’s. I never left my team, even when it was said their best days were over. It's a well known fact the Jays squandered what little money they had and sold off their prospects within their own system to win years ago, and in ways they're still paying for it.

The Yankees have money because they are from a big city with a huge fan base world wide that supports the team through buying team merchandise, selling out the stadium every game, and the attraction of the Yankee tradition. Go build that in your city of choice. Yankee stadium used to be half empty in the 80’s and we always ended up in second place. If using OUR money to build OUR team means we win, so be it!

70 posted on 09/28/2011 11:51:26 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

I was and am one of those Jays fans.

Kicked your butts well and good to win two in a row. I can die a content man, knowing that I got to watch Dave Winfield belt it up the line and Carter knock it out of the park for the back to back world series.


71 posted on 09/28/2011 11:54:49 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: dfwgator

You’re either a true baseball fan or have a long memory.


72 posted on 09/28/2011 11:55:27 PM PDT by JoeA (JoeA / Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est)
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To: BenKenobi

Am a Red Sox fan and a baseball fan. That means that while I feel bad about how this yr turned out, I will watch and/or listen to the playoffs till the very end. Pick teams. Hope perhaps some teams who haven’t won before get a chance.

Red Sox fans: at least we aren’t the team who hasn’t won since 1908 (and I do hope Cubbies can taste champagne someday!)
Even despite the loss it was an interesting game. Frustrating at times, joyful at others. I was at work and at one point kept going back and forth between Bos-Bal and NYY-Tampa Bay.
As it turned out the end of the Bos game came just a couple minutes before the TB game ended.

The wildcard situation, etc. brought things down to the
final day. For those who say baseball is boring:
it can be anything but!

Bart Giamatti, a Red Sox fan:
:”It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone. You count on it, rely on it to buffer the passage of time, to keep the memory of sunshine and high skies alive, and then just when the days are all twilight, when you need it most, it stops. Today, October 2, a Sunday of rain and broken branches and leaf-clogged drains and slick streets, it stopped, and summer was gone.”


73 posted on 09/29/2011 12:01:27 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: EyeGuy

Like it or not, MLB became more of a business then a game years ago. Not saying I agree with that, just stating a fact. And if you apply your own business rules and sense of competition, the Yankees are doing nothing wrong.


74 posted on 09/29/2011 12:02:15 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

Usually it does. 2003 World Series: Big money NY Yankees.
Small money Florida Marlins. Recall who won?

But often it can work...


75 posted on 09/29/2011 12:04:15 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: EyeGuy
Why is it that on this subject, all the so called believers in capitalism become socialists? The Yankees are successful largely because they practice capitalism, providing a good product, making a healthy profit, and reinvesting in the product, and developing more good product, in the form of home grown talent. Yes they buy and sell players, and sometimes it works, like now, and sometimes it doesn't, like in the 80s and early 90s. And see: Boston, 2nd in payroll.

That home grown talent includes Jeter, Cano, Hughes, Posada, Montero (r), Romine(r) and last but certainly not least Mariano Rivera.

If you believe in socialism, you're a football fan, with salary caps and rules tweaking every year "to make it fair." If you believe in freedom and individual achievement and capitalism, you're a baseball fan.

76 posted on 09/29/2011 12:08:02 AM PDT by JoeA (JoeA / Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est)
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To: raccoonradio

In 2003, the Yankees were done after the ALCS against Boston. Totally left everything on the field in that series. Nothing against the Marlins though, they played well.


77 posted on 09/29/2011 12:08:55 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: BenKenobi

I live near Syracuse and at that time the Syracuse Chiefs were your AAA team. I got the Jays rubbed into my face everywhere I went! As the only female rabid Yankee fan in my group of friends, I’m lucky I survived!


78 posted on 09/29/2011 12:19:15 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: JoeA

Thank you, Joe A! What I was thinking but written much more eloquently!


79 posted on 09/29/2011 12:22:12 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: BenKenobi
I just noticed your tagline— Honkeys for Herman!!! Hahaha!
80 posted on 09/29/2011 12:27:17 AM PDT by MacMattico
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