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LA Times:U.S. gun-tracing operation let firearms into criminal hands
latimes.com ^ | March 3, 2011 | Kim Murphy

Posted on 03/04/2011 1:12:53 PM PST by RC one

A federal operation that allowed weapons from the U.S. to pass into the hands of suspected gun smugglers so they could be traced to the higher echelons of Mexican drug cartels has lost track of hundreds of firearms, many of which have been linked to crimes, including the fatal shooting of a Border Patrol agent in December.

The investigation, known as Operation Fast and Furious, was conducted even though U.S. authorities suspected that some of the weapons might be used in crimes, according to a variety of federal agents who voiced anguished objections to the operation.

Many of the weapons have spread across the most violence-torn states in Mexico, with at least 195 linked to some form of crime or law enforcement action, according to documents obtained by the Center for Public Integrity and The Times.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which ran the operation, said that 1,765 guns were sold to suspected smugglers during a 15-month period of the investigation. Of those, 797 were recovered on both sides of the border, including 195 in Mexico after they were used in crimes, collected during arrests or intercepted through other law enforcement operations.

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; batfe; gunwalker
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To: Travis McGee

“The BATF faces Waterloo on a Watergate scale.”

And few are more deserving.


21 posted on 03/04/2011 4:54:37 PM PST by Elsiejay (.)
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To: Travis McGee; All

Especially due to the fact that not only did they contribute to the deaths of Mexican civillians by the hundreds but also to the deaths of law ennforcement officers in both the USA & Mexico .

Sadly the Democrats & the Republicans will let them skate . The Democrats because they will not throw a freindly pratorian guard federal agency that they agree with under the bus even when they commit mass murder of Americans ala the Branch Davidians.

The Republicans simply because they are zipless foxtrot-uniform-charlie-kilo’s.If you think I am wrong just sit back & observe carefully.


22 posted on 03/04/2011 6:12:45 PM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: Lurker

More than one man is dead, the idiots let over 2500 weapons go across the border even when the dealers were telling them that something didn’t pass the smell test.

There are a whole bunch of dead in Mexico due to this including cops & kids . Mexico is a failed state !!!

There are accounts from more than one Mexican governor that not only did past mexican presidents control/allocate drug smugling routes but that former commanders of the presidential bodyguard was running training/combat shooting camps for cartel gunmen.

considering the fact that Hezbollah is also working with the cartels it would not surprise me if one day we see a mushroom cloud sprout over a major American city that investigation will determine came across the US/Mexican border in a donkey cart but that there will be bipartisan resistance to getting the southwest border under control.


23 posted on 03/04/2011 6:22:37 PM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: RC one
Rush talked about this today and spent some time on it. The proverbial cat is out of the bag and running around. It's a very dangerous cat.
24 posted on 03/04/2011 7:27:41 PM PST by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
If its bad enough that CBS and the LA TImes are running it, the MSM must smell blood in the water.

It's spin.

25 posted on 03/04/2011 11:14:51 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: Nebr FAL owner
Mexico is a failed state !!!

So are we!

26 posted on 03/04/2011 11:16:14 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: RC one
U.S. authorities suspected that some of the weapons might be used in crimes,

Really?

Someone ask the new press secretary about this. Gun running. Why is Obama's administration arming Mexican drug cartels?

27 posted on 03/05/2011 4:03:50 AM PST by csvset
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To: Joe Brower; Carry_Okie; Travis McGee

http://www.wimp.com/federalagent/

Damn.....BATFAG’s, DOJ, Erkel Mugabe need their heads handed to em on this BS.

Dooooom on this administrations actions. At some point jail or worse has to be reintroduced for criminal acts in the executive, legislative and judicial branch of our government .


28 posted on 03/05/2011 6:30:07 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: He Rides A White Horse

Not yet but we are heading that way at approximately the speed of sound at the present time.


29 posted on 03/05/2011 6:46:44 AM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: Joe Brower
Looks like I already am included, but just in case, please add Tahoe3002. Thanks.
30 posted on 03/05/2011 6:59:32 AM PST by Tahoe3002
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To: Nebr FAL owner
Not yet but we are heading that way at approximately the speed of sound at the present time.

I have faith that we can turn this around. As for your homepage, you hit the mark brother. Anybody that wants you disarmed has evil plans for you. Keep the faith.

31 posted on 03/05/2011 7:08:53 AM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: Squantos; Travis McGee; Avoiding_Sulla
I think it time to consider a motive at variance to the "giant sting operation" cover story; i.e., demonstrating Obama's and Holder's intent to arm Mexican gangs with military weapons and ammunition for use inside the United States, IOW a clear and blatant act of treason.

I know, that's more than tinfoil, but hear me out. Remember, I was raised among leftist intellectual elitists in 1960s San Francisco, Berkeley, and Oakland. I know how they think. Make no mistake, they want middle class America dead. They want a dictatorship of the proletariat. They know we have guns.

Remember that speech the O-bot made when he ran?

“We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”

Well? What are those "national security objectives we've set? Remember the look of cold hatred on his face? We all know who "we" is to Obama and his ilk, if it's Malcolm X, Elijah Mohammed, Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, Saul Alinsky, Bernadine Dohrn... you know, those folks who said it might be necessary to eliminate 25 million Americans.

Nobody I know of in popular media has come up with an adequate explanation for that quote. Yet look at the timing of this programme. Bammy and Holder set up Gun Walker almost the moment they took office. That means they had to know what they wanted to accomplish before then and how. I promise you: their goal was not to make drugs less available in inner cities and Hollywood. Nor is the idea that he was helping Mexico throw off the cartels terribly credible, as Bammy didn't know Felipe Calderon from Mother Theresa, nor was Mexico a high priority compared to Iraq, Afghanistan, Guantanamo, or taking the levers on all that lovely money to game the financial meltdown. No, given that he did this almost from the day he took office demonstrates that his likely objective always has been to take this country down for ill, because it represents a serious move in a long planned multifaceted strategy, an element that he knew was going to take time to develop. This operation continued WAY too long for it to be a simple sting. There was also far more material involved than was necessary. There is just no way that story flies in reality.

Is the drug war enough of a cash flow to arm "the people" so that they are "just as well funded" to fight those eeeevil bourgeois, to return the land 'white America stole' to Mexican peasants, to the Indians...to "the people" (whoever his hate-addled mind thinks they are)? I promise you: The left does not under-estimate middle America. They will not move unless they think there is a chance "we" can win. They need us on our backs before they go, and this long series of slow predations in food, fuel, inculcating and "us against them" mentality among law enforcement unions, and now adding medical authority is just what they need to make it easier. They will push that for eventual simple suffocation, but they know how to pull the lever should conflict be to their advantage or if the situation becomes desperate. The international left is patient and willing to take a big hit as long as things move in their direction. Remember there were attempted communist takeovers in Germany in 1848 and the 1920s before they got their guy in 1933.

32 posted on 03/05/2011 8:09:33 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Squantos; Travis McGee; Avoiding_Sulla
One other thing, CBS. I really don't think that Katie Couric would EVER run this story if they did not think that they would need the "sting operation" cover. Nor do I think that a RINO like Grassley would pursue it so aggressively.

No, this stinks of something far worse. It's using Heinlein's razor as cover.

33 posted on 03/05/2011 8:12:58 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: RC one
This is officially a scandal.

If you thought that, then why did you post it in Chat? This is frontpage sidebar in News/Activism. CBS News chief White House correspondent Chip Reid was asking White House press secretary Jay Carney about it yesterday.

White House- No comment on ATF gun-walking controversy

34 posted on 03/08/2011 5:28:49 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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