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Are We One of Many Universes? MIT Physicist Says "Yes"
Daily Galaxy ^ | 2/18/11 | Casey Kazan

Posted on 02/19/2011 1:59:12 AM PST by LibWhacker

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1 posted on 02/19/2011 1:59:18 AM PST by LibWhacker
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In the end, there is no way to know for sure what other universes are out there, or what life they may hold. But that will likely not stop physicists from exploring the possibilities, and in the process learning more about our own universe.

"...there is no way to know..."

"...that will likely not stop physicists from exploring the possibilities..."

I agree that there is no way to know. Therefore, there can be no "exploring." What they are doing is speculating about the existence of something which cannot be proven or disproven. How does this help us to "learn more about our own universe"? This is not science. It is not even science fiction. It is meaningless fantasy, a total waste of time.

2 posted on 02/19/2011 2:05:59 AM PST by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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This is not science. ... yeah ...
It is not even science fiction. ... yeah ...
It is meaningless fantasy, ... well, OK ...
a total waste of time. ... now hold on a minute!
3 posted on 02/19/2011 2:15:32 AM PST by dr_lew
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To: LibWhacker

A thesis which, by definition, cannot be verified, quantified or falseified. And they call this science?


4 posted on 02/19/2011 2:22:53 AM PST by circlecity
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5 posted on 02/19/2011 2:24:45 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: LibWhacker
They saved themselves with the ending sentence (fragment);

There is no shortage of material to study or contemplate, already "here".

6 posted on 02/19/2011 2:26:20 AM PST by BlueDragon
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To: Rocky
Absolutely correct and well-said.

Science is about disprovable hypotheseses.

But a many-Universe theory isn't disprovable. Moreover: it is strictly non-provable, which puts such a theory in a very special class of short-bus scientific endeavours. This is because - by definition - a different Universe must be orthogonal in all ways to this Universe.

So if you can detect or observe any part of a 'different Universe' then - by definition - what you have observed is actually part of your own Universe..

So for instance: different dimensions, different 'branes', phase-spaces of existance with different physical laws - if you can find them, then they are not a different Universe - they are simply proofs that the current Universe is more extended and more extraordinary than previously thought.

7 posted on 02/19/2011 2:29:41 AM PST by agere_contra (Historically every time the Left has 'expanded its moral imagination' the results have been horrific)
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To: LibWhacker

What is religion, if not a belief that there is a separate universe of which we can be conscious, and in which we can spend time?


8 posted on 02/19/2011 2:34:42 AM PST by Tax Government (Democrat: "I'm driving to Socialism at 95 mph." Republican: "Observe the speed limit.")
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Having said all that, the non-provable fantasy that is the many-universe theory is very important to certain types of scientist.

This is because it allows them to run from the glaringly obvious conclusions of the Strong Anthropic Principle.

In brief, the Strong Anthropic Principle concerns the colossal variable space that a Universe might have - and how the Universe in fact has exactly the correct variable set that allows:

* Three dimensional space to exist for 9+ Billion years

* Protonic matter to exist for 9+ Billion years

* Atoms to exist for 9+ Billion years

* Carbon and iron to exist

* Life to exist in any way, shape or form.

Example: vary one single nuclear resonance value by a vanishingly small fraction, and Carbon would be as rare as Mendelevium.

Because the Strong Anthropic Principle points directly to 'Intelligent Design', certain kinds of scientists instead insist that there must be quadrillions of different Universes sampling all parts of the Universe variable space - and that we happen to inhabit the only one of those quadrillions of Universes where life can exist.

Which is (as I say) non-disprovable, and also non-provable. Multiple Universe Theory requires a level of belief that e.g. Christian belief does not.

For instance: Christianity could be proved absolutely to all unbelievers in the next four minutes by the Second Coming. But Multiple Universe Theory cannot be proven - ever - not even after the last syllable of recorded time.

9 posted on 02/19/2011 2:49:30 AM PST by agere_contra (Historically every time the Left has 'expanded its moral imagination' the results have been horrific)
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To: LibWhacker
Well duh!

Many who have had a near death experience witnessed the many apertures that led to and away from the light.

They weren't going to or from the same locations for heaven's sake!

10 posted on 02/19/2011 2:57:26 AM PST by Happy Rain ("Implementing Obamacare now is like arresting motorists for driving sober--there ain't no such law.")
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Every time I see Obama reading from his teleprompter...

It is obvious, there are alternate universes.


11 posted on 02/19/2011 2:57:26 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Palin / Trump 2012 - America First)
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What is religion, if not a belief that there is a separate universe of which we can be conscious, and in which we can spend time?

It's a fair question. A religious theory and Multiple Universe Theory differ in this: the other Universes predicated by MUT are places that, even if they exist, cannot ever be interacted with.

Even if MUT were true (and how could we ever know?) we could not ever spend time there, in the same rigorous sense that 1 cannot equal 2.

But a religious theory, if it is in fact a true religious theory, can be realized. One day, we may indeed find ourselves in Paradise.

12 posted on 02/19/2011 2:59:52 AM PST by agere_contra (Historically every time the Left has 'expanded its moral imagination' the results have been horrific)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
An excellent hypothesis for an intersection of universes.
13 posted on 02/19/2011 3:03:52 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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Ok... am I the only knumbskull? How can there be more than 1 and still be a Universe?

TT


14 posted on 02/19/2011 3:11:28 AM PST by TexasTransplant (I got your Alla Akbar and your 72 Virgins... when ya wanna meet up?)
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To: BlueDragon

That is my Favorite Picture ... my new monitor however does not ever get me the detail that my old one did, or I just don’t have the right image.

Da Vinci has the most Famous drawing the Vitruvian Man and the Most Famous Painting the Mona Lisa but the most incredible picture,the most mind blowing important image to date is the Hubble Deep Space Picture ... and it’s Billions of Years Older as well.

TT


15 posted on 02/19/2011 3:21:55 AM PST by TexasTransplant (I got your Alla Akbar and your 72 Virgins... when ya wanna meet up?)
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the most mind blowing important image to date is the Hubble Deep Space Picture ... and it’s Billions of Years Older as well.

It is fun looking back in time billions of years, then comparing the present to the past. Makes one wonder what is going on in the present. More precisely, here on earth, the present, looking through Hubble, is linked with with the past, therefore is the earth actually in the present or past? No offense intended, just being playful this AM.

16 posted on 02/19/2011 3:34:31 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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Yes, it can be fun looking back in time, for instance at andromeda V73 or pulsar 445 W3, or even globular cluster 576T, but sometimes it can be hard to dig up some of those old memories, too.


17 posted on 02/19/2011 3:45:33 AM PST by golux
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and wouldn’t it be nice to see the present at these locations? Memories, sweet memories.


18 posted on 02/19/2011 3:49:29 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Rocky

Can the existence of God be proven or disproven, demons, angels, elves, etc?


19 posted on 02/19/2011 3:55:29 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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Who cares?


20 posted on 02/19/2011 3:55:46 AM PST by AdaGray
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